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aussiedave

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Looking for informed recommendation...
« on: February 10, 2012, 05:26:58 AM »
I just got my first PAP measurement done and also bowled at a different center that actually measured your ball speed for you, so armed with this new knowledge I wanted to pick some brains out there for their ball recommendations.
PAP is 4 1/2 Rt and 1" up - ball speed is in the 13 -14 m.p.h range. I bowl semi-roller, right hand.
I am looking for a strong but predictable move to the pocket. 
Looking forward to hearing from y'all on this one, thanks in advance.
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Re: Looking for informed recommendation...
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2012, 10:09:10 AM »
With that said; what are you using currently playing that deep on the lane?  Compared to it, do you want something that hooks less or a little more?
 



aussiedave wrote on 2/13/2012 5:18 PM:
For those who asked - I am an ordinary turner of the ball, nothing special there. Standard semi-roller - don't have a clue as to how many revs that is. Stroker.

I stand wide on 5th dot (left hand side) and put it over the 4th (from right) arrow. I do this to keep it on as much oil as possible.

League av is 167. I am 54. 

Thnx.

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aussiedave

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Re: Looking for informed recommendation...
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2012, 02:23:33 PM »
My current piece is a black/silver Tropical Storm and yes, I get plenty of turn with it. If anything, if the lane is really dry once off the oil pattern, it tends to bite just a little too hard and this gets me into trouble. Sometimes it goes that little bit further before biting sometimes sooner - it can be a bit of a lottery and I am pretty sure my action is fairly consistent.
So to answer, I would like something that hooks about as much as this one, but perhaps a bit smoother or predictable once off the oil?
Thnx.
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Re: Looking for informed recommendation...
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2012, 02:30:00 PM »
Definitely stay away from high end stuff then.  Have you thought about taking the Tropical and say go to a 2000 abralon finish with no polish?  That would smoothen out the reaction for you and save you money in the long run.
 



aussiedave wrote on 2/14/2012 3:23 PM:
My current piece is a black/silver Tropical Storm and yes, I get plenty of turn with it. If anything, if the lane is really dry once off the oil pattern, it tends to bite just a little too hard and this gets me into trouble. Sometimes it goes that little bit further before biting sometimes sooner - it can be a bit of a lottery and I am pretty sure my action is fairly consistent.

So to answer, I would like something that hooks about as much as this one, but perhaps a bit smoother or predictable once off the oil?

Thnx.

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Edited by aussiedave on 2/14/2012 at 3:24 PM


 

Edited by aussiedave on 2/14/2012 at 3:25 PM



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Re: Looking for informed recommendation...
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2012, 04:11:05 PM »
Would the 2000 Abralon make a duller surface? 
And does that increase or decrease the amount of hook or just smooth out the hook arc?
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Re: Looking for informed recommendation...
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2012, 06:11:04 PM »
 Hearing about your Tropical Heat's characteristics even more so makes me recommend the Red/Yellow Hook from 900 Global. Their covers tend to be smooth anyway, and the Hook is on the weaker end of their lineup. It's a polished solid, which should make it more predictable than your hybrid Tropical Heat, while being in the same ballpark for overall reaction.

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Re: Looking for informed recommendation...
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2012, 06:50:27 PM »
I feel pretty safe recommending the 900 Global Eagle to about anyone. Nice ball, plenty strong with good carry. As some one mentioned earlier, the 900 Hook is a great step down from the Eagle. I have the blue Hook and carry is really amazing for a ball that is supposed to be a weak cover and simple core.


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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2012, 07:14:35 AM »

 I would first try adding some surface to your Tropical Heat.  If that is hooking too much or too early, then the next option in the Storm family is the Tropical Breeze.  Would be a definite step down from your Tropical Heat.

If you want to try something other than Storm, a Brunswick Slingshot would be the best option for reactive.  Other than that, most of the urethanes would be good.  I am partial to the Brunswick Avalanche Urethane, but I am sure the others are similar and just as good.



TWOHAND834 wrote on 2/14/2012 3:30 PM:
Definitely stay away from high end stuff then.  Have you thought about taking the Tropical and say go to a 2000 abralon finish with no polish?  That would smoothen out the reaction for you and save you money in the long run.
 




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Re: Looking for informed recommendation...
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2012, 10:32:46 AM »
Dave,

 

The ball comes polished at 1500 grit w/polish.  The polish is what makes the ball jumpy on the backend.  By taking the ball to 1000 to knock off the shine and then take it to 2000, it will still have a sheen appearance and still allow the ball to get down the lane.  By not having the polish over the 2000, it will make the backend a little more controllable for you. 

 

Polish helps a ball to retain energy.  The more energy retained, the more flip you will see on the backend.  By taking the ball and stepping down to a sheen finish, it will help the ball to lose a little bit of that energy thus making the backend smoother.  It will still hook overall similar to the box finish, but be a tad earlier and a tad smoother.

 

I would try the surface adjustment first and then see if you really need a new ball.  Worst case scenario, the ball is still too jumpy for your liking and you can have the pro shop add polish back to it which takes 90 seconds if that.
 



aussiedave wrote on 2/14/2012 5:11 PM:
Would the 2000 Abralon make a duller surface? 

And does that increase or decrease the amount of hook or just smooth out the hook arc?

Thanks for the suggestions.

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