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Neptune66

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body totally frozen during rolloff
« on: April 22, 2011, 02:01:35 AM »
Cannot understand why this happened....or what I could have done to change it.

 

Showed up for rolloff and was totally stiff thruout the night.  Not nervous....at least not mentally speaking.

 

I know what THAT feels like. Butterflies, jitters....  None of that.   That's the feeling I had a few times when I had thrown the first 9, 10, and even 11 in a row.  That was understandable, as I was aware of being nervous and tense and it was .....normal... if not desirable.

 

This was different. Was mentally un-intimidated, and yet the body was a acting as if I had this great game going and didn;t want to blow it. only it wasn't great or even good.  It sucked from start to finish.  And every shot was either yanked, or overthrown or dropped, or ....whatever. 

 

Was the most horrible and helpless experience I have ever had. Was not my first rolloff, and have been a few tournaments. And again.... I did not FEEL nervous.  And yet the body was totally tensed up and useless.

 

Please tell me someone else here has experienced this. And if there was something I could have done ---besides what i should have done (pack up my stuff and leave so my team could use my average).

 

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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2011, 10:21:43 AM »
Sounds like being nervous to me... you might not have recognized it, or maybe you suppressed it, but what you described is being nervous.


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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2011, 10:40:34 AM »
You just had "one of those nights". Sounds like something I did a couple of years back.

 

 At the beginning of that season, I set the goal of not shooting under a 600 series all year. By some miracle of fate, I made it the entire year with my lowest set a 605. Then came the rolloffs.

 

 The team went into them in first place, and I quickly proceeded to shoot a 450 something set, and we came in third. I wasn't nervous, tired, or anything, I just could NOT perform for some reason.

 

 It happens.
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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2011, 11:31:51 AM »
  I do know what you are talking about and I would not call it nerves, but would say that you may have psyched yourself out of maybe even got a little to hyped up mentally. Leading up to bowling night and even into practice, your brain/mind wanted to bowl good. So good in fact that you could not shut it down and just bowl. In turn you would aim one shot, realize it, then just ship the next one wide, realize it, tug it next time out and so on. Maybe next time, try not to be so mentally focused, but rather just let it all come to you. Maybe not suppress the nerves but embrace them and allow yourself to work through it as the night goes on. That is what I am going to do or try at least. 

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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2011, 07:45:33 PM »
Thank you. Yes. I think that could be it (thinking too much basically). 
 
All week I was waiting for this.
 
In fact... the week before,for the first round of the playoffs, we were playing what I thought was a much stronger team, and we were fine. And I was fine.
 
Had been very apprehensive that week, and when game time came...no problem.  Then this week and was actually less worried and felt we were evenly matched with the other team, and absolute crap was the result.
 
My teammates went south too, though I can't blame it on them.  Even though they were sub-par, I was atrocious.
 
Guess I just wanted it too much.  By contrast, am in another rolloff (Final) this week,  and although I want to do well, and to win, of course, I don't care that much.
 
It's a less competitive league and we won this league a few years ago.  A repeat is nice, but there is no monkey to get off my back in this rolloff.
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2011, 09:09:28 AM »
Had you done anything (physically) out of the ordinary within a few days of the rolloff?  A little extra or unusual exercise can cause enough stiffness to throw you off.  And it only gets worse with age, believe me!  --  JohnP



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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 09:32:41 AM »

As usual JOHNP .. GREAT comment!

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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 10:05:38 AM »
Actually...  am well into my 50's, and no stranger to stuffness and pain. This was not a debillitating stiffness, and as i mentioned....did not feel like nervousness either. It was kind of like the "normal" (normal for us old people) rigid feeling you have in the first few minutes of practice or maybe even extending into the first few frames of the first league game. The difference is....  on the night of the roll-off, it never dissipated. Every shot felt like the first or second delivery of the evening. Was like being trapped in my "just walked in off the street" self, hours afterward.

 

Something else I didn't mention before, probably unconciously suppressing it cause I don't want to be angry with my team captain (who I have bowled with for years, and hope to continue to do so):

 

I was ancor all LAST season, and then ...after being unable to bowl this year's first night due to family obligations, the newest bowler on the team was given the OPPORTUNITY to bowl anchor.  I wasn't thrilled, but had no real objection, and for most of the 1st third of this season it seemed to be working out well as both he and I were doing well. We...afterall, won the first 3rd with that line-up.

 

But .... the rest of this year we both had kind of floundered and to make a long story a little shorter, my team captain decided to make me anchor again for the first playoff round. It worked well ----I bowled solidly, and so did everyone else on the team, and we beat a team that I though ----going in--- was better than us (at least based on recent performances).

 

So...  naturally, I thought I would be anchor again in the rolloff, but when I arrived, the captain told me that he had made the other bowler anchor "on a hunch".

 

Now...  I am not going where some of you think I might be with this. I am not saying we lost cause I wasn;t anchor, or that I bowled bad directly because of being in a different spot. In fact.... in my other league (where we are still alive and in the final rolloff this Wednesday), the lineup is rotated more often than not...on hunches. I expect it, and have zero problems with it.... despite preferring the anchor spot.

 

What I'm thinking, though, is that even though I wasn't conciously angry about the decision, that on some level I was, and that this caused my body to be all tenses up. I couldn't allow myself to conciously acknowledge the anger (though I would have been better off expressing it and moving on), so instead I swallowed my annoyance and it killed my ability to just relax and throw the ball.

 

Not indicting my captain here.  In fact ... his decision to make me anchor the week before was on a whim as well.  But that was after a poor showing the week before (by the team), and this was after a successful playoff win.  Why change it?

 

But the real culprit is still myself.  I could/should have said something.  Not a strong protest, but at least an acknowledgement to my captain that I would support his decsion, but would rather be remain anchor. I would have felt better and just bowled my game.  In short... I was angry at myself for not speaking up. Partly for selfish reasons, but I also am much calmer in pressure situations than the other person is. I like him, and he has come through in some pressure spots (and I have failed sometimes), but generally speaking, I don;t feel any additional pressure in the 10th frame, and more often than not, I want the ball.

 

Anyway...  I think that's what happened.  I was angry about being relieved of anchor duties unexpectedly (the week before I had not idea who was anchoring, so it was a pleasant surprise, but this week I expected it). But to compound the problem, when my capatin told me and asked if I was angry, I lied and said no problem. If I had answered truthfully, I may STILL have bowled like crap, but that rigid, stuff feeling probably would not have been present.

 

Ok...  That's all I'll say.  If anyone wants to tell me I am whining, I can accept that. I am just trying to understand what happened, and move on from this (and learn something from the experience).

 

 

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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 01:51:33 PM »
Get to the house early and roll a practice game to loosen up.  Try to get out of your head for a while and just bowl.



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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 02:25:10 PM »

No comment on the bad bowling experience .. do want to tell you .. nice job on the writing!!

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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2011, 03:03:46 PM »
Thank you for the complment, especially considering several misspellings.

 

And.... I didn't mention this previously, but I DID practice before the league games, and it was an average practice session.  Wasn't throwing especially well or poorly.  Something just changed in me when I found out I wasn't being relied upon in quite the way I had expected to be.----after coming through the week before.

 

It all seems very clear in hindsight, and I'm not normally bashful about speaking up. But on some weird level, I thought that if I made an objection that it might ruin our team's good Karma we had going into the match.  Ironically....keeping quiet accomplished the same feat. 

 

It's not that I had a right to BE bowling in the position I had expected, or that speaking up would have changed it, but I did have a right to object, and chose not to exercise it. And then repressed even the fact that I was doing that (I didn't conciously say anything to myself to at least give myself credit for trying to be a good team member, even if the results were not favorable).  Instead, I sat there in between shots, completely dumbfounded as to why I felt so out of sorts and helpless to change it.   ----Even that part was odd, as I am normally not above slamming things or marching off in a huff, and expressing some emotion to get myself and/or my teammates fired up.

 

It was as if I had already lost a part of the experience I had been looking forward to before the first ball was even rolled. If you think you're going to be the starting pitcher in the 7th game of the World Series and suddenly when you arrive at the ballpark you're told you're going to be in middle relief instead....  well... something like that.  Didn't compare to being relegated to backup quarterback in the Superbowl, cause that's a move that IS reversable once the game starts.  In this case I knew that no matter how bad things went, there was no way I could have an opportunity to fulfill that role.

 

Conciously I sucked it up and told myself that my job was still to bowl as good as I could, and this would take pressure off the anchorman as well as my teammates, and we would win and that IS what I wanted most of all.  But subconciously, an entirely different perspective was playing itself out. The child in me was pouting. Only he was doing it secretively.... so much so that it was like I was possessed.

 

If only I had a time machine to go back and talk some sense into myself -----  or the captain!  Course...like an episode of twilight zone I saw once, where someone goes back in time to try to prevent the assasination of Kennedy, other things would go wrong and fate would reassert itself. Just wasn't meant to be this time.

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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 07:10:03 PM »

O.P. imho that last post of yours is exactly what happened to you!!!you should have spoken up and let your captain know your fellings about the switch!!!you supressed it...and just got out of your whole game plan.it has happened to me also...waiting all week to bowl and then when the time comes....bowl like CRAP!!!thats why now i try to be even keel!!!not too high nor low....so i can just let the pins fall where they may!!!



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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 07:42:14 AM »
"And.... I didn't mention this previously, but I DID practice before the league games, and it was an average practice session.  Wasn't throwing especially well or poorly.  Something just changed in me when I found out I wasn't being relied upon in quite the way I had expected to be.----after coming through the week before."

 

So, do you normally practice before your leagues?  And, if not, how long was it between the end of your practice and the start of league?  A 15 min. or so wait can result in some stiffening.  --  JohnP



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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 07:48:21 AM »
There was a break between p[ractice and league (probably about 10-15 minutes), but then there was more practice with the league. And there was stiffness, but there is always some stiffness for me at the start. This time it never left, and I think it was more mental than anything else.
 

I was angry (without admitting it to myself) and I was trying harder than ever to bowl good, which of course is usually a recipe for disaster.

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Re: body totally frozen during rolloff
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 07:56:24 AM »
I think my viewpoint is there is just no time for nerves when it's on the line...  all this psychology is too much.  Bowlers so often psych themselves out before the game even starts with rampant thoughts.  Discipline is the ability to control that, not SUPPRESS that but to overpower that mentally. 

 

I think too too often we forget that we are just bowling.  Sure there is big stakes on the line (potentially) if a league title means something to you, but break that down one frame at a time and locate shots.  Just think, there's no TV cameras or bright lights or HUGE money on the line.....so what is the root cause of the stress to begin with?

 

If you lose, you walk out and say "hey, I gave it my all, they won and that is OK." the sun will still come up

If you win, well...........celebrate.

 

Nerves are going to contribute NOTHING to a win.  Get rid of them.  It doesnt matter HOW you do it, but you have to just do it.  Figure out a way.


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