I feel like depending on which booth you go to, some guys seem really good and other guys seem really bad. Had a friend get a ball drilled at the Ebonite booth, told them he wanted long and strong, and they gave him like a 30x3x30 on a Pivot. Ball was rolling in his backswing and he's already gotten rid of it. Had another friend that got a Venom Shock at the Motiv/Visionary booth. I told the driller all my buddy's specs, and when I was telling him the thumb oval, I said it was a .090 oval at 45 degrees, and he didn't know what I was talking about. He asked what the cuts were, and so I said 3 cuts of .021 both right and reverse. He still didn't get it so he just took my buddy over to some weird old fitting ball and did it that way. Then he was talking about layout, looked at my buddy's Revolt, and said, "Oh, we don't want to drill it 'stacked' like this one (apparently stacked means the pin to cg line is parallel to the grip centerline no matter where the fingers are at), we want to kick the cg out 20 degrees." I told him I knew my buddy's PAP if he wanted it, and he said, "Nah, we don't need that." Didn't ask rev rate, speed, anything. Those are the guys you can't tell whether they know what they're doing and are just using old terminology in an attempt to communicate, or if they have zero clue what they're doing.
I can watch somebody throw a ball and drill something for them without getting a PAP or using dual angle numbers because I understand the concepts, but I guess I'm not sure why you wouldn't use them. Drilling a ball for someone to use at nationals, maybe you don't need to go overboard or get ridiculous, but I'd think you'd at least want to know something about the person you're drilling for . .