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Nicanor

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Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« on: September 16, 2009, 01:46:07 AM »
I'm the President of our league and we had a problem with two teams regarding
running out a potential strike.
 
The bowler on lane 13 threw the ball starting running out the potential strike
went past lane 14 and onto lane 15. The bowler on lane 15 was on the approach beginning his approach toward the foul line when he caught the bowler running toward him as he was running out the potential strike.  This made the bowler on lane 15 mad and an argument was started.  I don't know if there is a rule to cover this, but some say he has the right to run out a strike.  If true, how many lanes?  If a bowler is suppose to stay in his own lane and not run out strikes to and though other lanes, is it in writing in the USBC handbook?  If not, the "just be courteous" will not work.  If there isn't something in writing that says they can't run out strikes and should stay in their own lane, then this will be a continuing problem.
 
Thank you,
 
               
 

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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 09:48:09 AM »
I dont think their is a rule against running strikes out.
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 09:53:07 AM »
I also haven't seen a rule covering this officially. I do not think that it is forbidden, but in case of an argument I'd (from a referee's point of view) call it a foul because of distraction/hindrance of lane play on other lanes, esp. when there is just an (official) 1 lane courtesy rule or agreement?
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 09:55:16 AM »
I think the bowler on lane #15 should have given the bowler from lane #13 a nice big fat blind sided elbow. He'd then think 2x before running out anything!
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 09:56:32 AM »
In a league setting, when everyone that steps up to the approach is fully aware that bowlers to either side are always looking around to see who was up on the lane first in order to determine the right of way, common sense should dictate that there should be no running out strikes as it will likely interfere with bowlers on other approaches.

The bowler that got mad was right (and a bigger problem could've occurred had there been a collision), and the clown running out the strike should've gotten his lights punched out for arguing.
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 10:13:59 AM »
Interference.  There's no two ways to look at it.
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 10:31:31 AM »
I agree, but without anything in writing, I have no ammunition to prevent this from happeing again in the future.

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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 10:34:02 AM »
Common sense. It should be frowned upon (And your league should have a rule against it). Imagine half of the bowlers in the league run out strikes, you are going to be there all night trying to complete 3 games.
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 10:41:03 AM »
I can't stand it when people run out shots 3 or more lanes away.  I can understand kinda stepping onto the next lane a bit, but not running the shot out.

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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 10:47:10 AM »
given the standard league rule of 1 lane courtesy (USBC nationals as well) I would deem it interference, been looking at the rule book but cannot fint it, but by definition his lane to bowl on is from the pin deck back to the approach, not two lanes down.  I would veture a warning would be justified that if it happens again the penality will be "X" whatever the league decides, its a tough call since a lot of leagues i have been on, you always have that team late in the night after drinkging a bit start to have fun with running shots out
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 10:48:56 AM »
Make it a league rule.  Unless he touched the bowler on 15, there is no interference.  In junior league, an idiot intentionally ran up behind another kid who had a 300 going.  Needless to say the kid missed his strike.  While the perpetrator was suspended for his behavior, the bowler does not get that shot back.
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 10:51:21 AM »
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I think the bowler on lane #15 should have given the bowler from lane #13 a nice big fat blind sided elbow. He'd then think 2x before running out anything!
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I have actually done this. After the third time the guy ran in front of me I just didn't stop my approach. I caught him with my left shoulder as he was turning ball in my backswing. Just kept driving and knock him 15 feet out onto the lane in frt of me. Last time he ran a strike out for the rest of that league.



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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 12:03:05 PM »

It's a nuisance! Why should anyone have to watch some jerk to make sure he won't run in front of them while they were trying to deliver a shot?

Maybe if everyone on BOTH sides of these idiots would return the favor, and even run out their spares for that matter, they'd see that it's not in the best interest of the league to allow that to happen.

Your league can adopt it's own rule against it, so who cares whether or not it's mentioned in the USBC rule book.




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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 12:06:19 PM »


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I think the bowler on lane #15 should have given the bowler from lane #13 a nice big fat blind sided elbow. He'd then think 2x before running out anything!
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Re: Bowler running out a strike, interference or a right
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 12:14:31 PM »
There is no rule in the books about this, hasn't been in the 5 years I have really been studding the rules. That said, 3 years ago we had a guy do this with almost every ball he threw. He crossed my lane ( 2 lanes down ) one time, last time. I was already half way ( give or take ) down the approach. He ran into me, he wished he hadn't because I'm old but stocky so needless to say, he fell down, slid a bit. He looked up as I asked him if he was OK. He hadn't time to answer before I said, if he crossed my lane again I will not stop or slow down, he's in MY lane.

Needless to say, our league hasn't had a problem since. I will always give the lane next to me courtesy, allowing anyone who wants to do that the room to do so but 2 or more lanes down ? Enter at your own risk.
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