The PBA League Bowler Certification Program is a total marketing and branding gimmick.  It won't do anything to grow bowling.  It serves to benefit Bowlero and only Bowlero.

I personally think this is Bowlero not wanting to pay the USBC fee to certify their 300+ centers for USBC sanctioned events, yet still have some sort of association available for their league bowlers moving forward.  It will also be a path for Bowlero to self certify string bowling.

It will also be a path for Bowlero to self certify string bowling.

+1.  That makes sense.

Only problem with bowling is the bowlers. Not the USBC not PBA and not Bowlero

 

I am no fan of the USBC, but I trust bowlers even less.

ANY publicly held company that has stockholders is interested in nothing but the bottom line.

Not the activity, and NOT the participants.

USBC has it’s own problems, but they have no ulterior motives, other than to keep themselves relevant to the sport.

 Bowlers has only its own interests in all of this. USBC may not be perfect, but replacing it with some Bowlero gimmick isn’t the answer.

 I just realized that spell check got me.

That first line should say Bowlero, not bowlers.

Quote from: Juggernaut on July 24, 2022, 12:38:54 PM

I am no fan of the USBC, but I trust bowlers even less.

ANY publicly held company that has stockholders is interested in nothing but the bottom line.

Not the activity, and NOT the participants.

USBC has it’s own problems, but they have no ulterior motives, other than to keep themselves relevant to the sport.

 Bowlers has only its own interests in all of this. USBC may not be perfect, but replacing it with some Bowlero gimmick isn’t the answer.

There’s little difference between Bowlero and the USBC. They both run tournaments for profit and both own professional sport organizations (PBA/PWBA). IMHO at this point the USBC is essentially a tournament organization taking a percentage of sanction fees without providing much value to local associations or proprietors.

The USBC is a non-profit organization and reported as such to the IRS.  They aren't doing anything for a profit.  The sanction fees keep the association running and that's it.  Although they have 8 employees being paid over $100K annually, with Chad Murphy getting paid over $400K as of 2020.  That's a little excessive.

Bowlero is a publicly traded for-profit corporation that operates to earn money for their shareholders.

Quote from: Bowler19525 on July 24, 2022, 11:53:58 PM

Quote from: morpheus on July 24, 2022, 08:53:51 PM

Quote from: Juggernaut on July 24, 2022, 12:38:54 PM

I am no fan of the USBC, but I trust bowlers even less.

ANY publicly held company that has stockholders is interested in nothing but the bottom line.

Not the activity, and NOT the participants.

USBC has it’s own problems, but they have no ulterior motives, other than to keep themselves relevant to the sport.

 Bowlers has only its own interests in all of this. USBC may not be perfect, but replacing it with some Bowlero gimmick isn’t the answer.

There’s little difference between Bowlero and the USBC. They both run tournaments for profit and both own professional sport organizations (PBA/PWBA). IMHO at this point the USBC is essentially a tournament organization taking a percentage of sanction fees without providing much value to local associations or proprietors.

The USBC is a non-profit organization and reported as such to the IRS.  They aren't doing anything for a profit.  The sanction fees keep the association running and that's it.  Although they have 8 employees being paid over $100K annually, with Chad Murphy getting paid over $400K as of 2020.  That's a little excessive.

Bowlero is a publicly traded for-profit corporation that operates to earn money for their shareholders.

Don’t kid yourself, USBC runs tournaments to make money and why exactly does the governing body of bowling own a professional sports organization? There is no other example of a governing body in any sport owning a professional sports organization. I might be a little less critical if it were transparent how USBC run tournaments and the PWBA were funded, but I think we all know that’s not going to happen as long as Chad is in charge.

Seems to me todays bowlers are confused as too the different bodies and their roles.

The USBC was formed to bring equipment standardization. They were formed independently so too be above approach. Its a good thing but primarly in the 80s they failed and bullied by the BPAA. They forgot they were to protect the sports integrity.

The BPAA is the trade organization for center owners be it if you only owned a few centers like my familiy or 150 like early corporations (which primarily begain to pop up in the 80s) Center owners knew they could better serve to grow the sport as a group and nation wide then as one center, 10 centers or 300 centers (Bull Arrow). Getting bowlers in the door is one persons job and job alone... The center owner and the stakes the highest for them.

The PBA is a glorifed tournament director. With out private property owners they do not exist, same a USBC, BPAA, Storm, Brunswick and blah blah. Center owners are everything all others just profit off their sucess.

Of course a non-profit tries to raise money what ones do not? They need to get back in and physical check centers and about too. If I had F-you money I would donate my millions to them so they tell Bowlero to shut the hell up already.

Bowlero wants to muddy the waters. They have came so close to turning a hundred year old sport into a recreation. They need to look back at the decades to see the BPAA failings.

"lets go bowling" old as coca-cola.

I can't image any scenario where I would donate a single penny where the grubby, shithead Murphy might benefit.

At this point, I'm for pretty much anything that kicks him to the curb.

I get it but not at the cost to the further erosion of our governing body that I presume Bowlero's non-sense will cause.

Bowlero just another corporation and possibly like so many, here today & gone tomorrow. Enough reason just there to not stake the future of 120 year sport on their ignorance or place it under the influence of any corporation. They have done enough damage IMHO.