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Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« on: July 23, 2022, 05:52:03 PM »
This was posted on Facebook, by Bowlero's new head of league bowling certification. Kind of explaining how everything the USBC has been doing for like over 100 years, they are now going to do instead.



A message from Neil Stremmel, our new PBA League Bowler Certification Director of Rules and Equipment.

For more information visit pba.com/pba-league-bowler-certification

https://www.facebook.com/ProfessionalBowlersAssociation/photos/a.241777764773/10159793816254774/

 

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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2022, 05:27:36 PM »
I can't image any scenario where I would donate a single penny where the grubby, shithead Murphy might benefit.

At this point, I'm for pretty much anything that kicks him to the curb.

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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2022, 05:40:23 PM »
The USBC started out as the governing body of bowling…that’s not what they are today. Look at all the tournaments they run now, it’s non-stop with Open Championships, Women's Championships, Senior Championships, Youth Open Championships, Junior Gold, Pepsi Championships, Masters, Senior Masters, Super Senior Classic, Queens, Senior Queens and all the PWBA events…so how is exactly they are different from any other organization that runs on tournaments to generate revenue.
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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2022, 05:46:52 PM »
How is it any different than the USTA or the USGA for tennis and golf governing those activities and also running multiple tournaments? 


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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2022, 06:02:53 PM »
Not to get in the middle of this (guess I am now) but some of the arguments I am hearing were the same when Elon Musk established SpaceX and its race to rival NASA. Now it appears SpaceX has passed NASA in many ways.....but we would not have known that if nobody would have given SpaceX a shot. I think we need to see how this plays out for a period of time (Bowlero deal) before we can drop the hammer and say it will erode bowling etc.. Those are assumptions at this point. Could it happen? YES! Will it happen? Don't know. We shall see.

I would normally agree, especially since no-one knew anything of SpaceX and it had everything to gain and nothing to lose...

.. However with Bowlero, they seriously projected when Tom Shannon went on Bloomberg and declared "no-one really cares about bowling". That give the indication of what they believed about the sport, and what the CEO of the company believed about the facilities he'd be managing in relation to that sport.

He put himself out there when opinions began to form after his comments, and even more so after the actions Bowlero set into motion after those comments were made, so to say to "give them a chance and see what happens" is a stretch, when their actions (eliminating leagues, closing alleys) has already given them track history and a body of work to see what they would do. They have yet still to reconcile their words with their previous actions, and it's still shocking that no-one has called Bowlero out on that.

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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2022, 07:13:39 PM »
Umm I dont
How is it any different than the USTA or the USGA for tennis and golf governing those activities and also running multiple tournaments? 


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How is it any different than the USTA or the USGA for tennis and golf governing those activities and also running multiple tournaments? 



Most importantly, neither of the organizations you mentioned own a professional sports organization and run a professional tour for that organization. Beyond that, I don’t think any of those USGA/USTA tournaments are even remotely close to the cattle call tournaments the USBC runs BECAUSE you have to qualify for their tournaments rather than anyone with a membership and an entry fee gets a shot at the title. And pure conjecture on my part because Chad will never reveal the financial details, but I suspect there’s lots of resources put into running tournaments and the PWBA funded by sanction fees which is total BS.
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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2022, 09:23:42 PM »
USTA has a “pro circuit” so young professionals can earn ranking points. And they charge a league fee for every league an individual participates in.  My wife plays on 2 or 3 teams a year and probably spends close to $100 on those fees.

Those organizations are very like the USBC, but bowlers are anti USBC so they don’t agree with anything the USBC does.

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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2022, 11:30:30 PM »
I'm not anti-USBC, just anti- Chad Murphy
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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2022, 08:42:53 AM »
I'm not anti-USBC, just anti- Chad Murphy

A Chad Murphy USBC vs A Stremmel PBA LBCP.

What a no brainer. Thank Gawd Stremmel did not make it to the top rung of the ABC or now USBC.

Just another gas bag and will make the Perfect Puppet for Shannon.

Stremmel and his blah blah blah newsletter on what he will do and how he will do it on " things that affect scoring".

Let me see, things that affect scoring (first and foremost). Oh, the typical house shot. Stremmel's ABC should have listened to the late great BT and today peeps would still think an honor score means something. Covers stocks, high flat gutters, warn edge boards and hot phenolic pin decks. All meaningless things compared to contining to allow todays logic based conditioning machines print out 300 games.

Shannon is off to a bad start.

The sport lost 10 of thousands of bowlers in the 80s / 90s when the ABC decided to approve shots that allowed 5 boards of area and to think it has it has not impacted the sports growth is blindness. Giving into whinning joe bowlers has done nothing to grow the sport in the last 40 years and those in agreement will not ring in, their not here, they quit. Who cares Stremmel about you "multiple perfect games" you lump into your "accolades". They are now longer considered "accolades"

And ask Tom to condition his lanes daily a good starting point. I am not fooled or tricked into thinking just conditiong prior to leagues and on league lanes only is in any shape or form proper lane maintence nor putting out a quality product. OMG Bolwero, your a $hit $how on every level.

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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2022, 10:25:23 AM »
I got this in my email from Bowlero and it made me laugh

For experienced bowlers, bowl for two free hours on freshly oiled lanes to see how our lanes play for you! As a valued league bowler, you will learn more about our membership perks, including our new PBA League Bowler Certification program! Come out to bowl, and see why our centers produce so many honor scores!

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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2022, 12:29:54 PM »
USTA has a “pro circuit” so young professionals can earn ranking points. And they charge a league fee for every league an individual participates in.  My wife plays on 2 or 3 teams a year and probably spends close to $100 on those fees.

Those organizations are very like the USBC, but bowlers are anti USBC so they don’t agree with anything the USBC does.

So does the USTA “pro circuit” have a prize fund payout?
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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2022, 12:42:49 PM »
Hey Bowls 300s,
How much has membership declined while Chad pulled dow 300k a year? Oh and what a genius move to resurrect the PWBA so we can flush more money down the drain funding a tour that’s never going to turn a profit.
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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2022, 01:09:48 PM »
Hey Bowls 300s,
How much has membership declined while Chad pulled dow 300k a year? Oh and what a genius move to resurrect the PWBA so we can flush more money down the drain funding a tour that’s never going to turn a profit.

Morpheus,

Why would I not be good with both?

Having a PWBA is fantastic and it grows the sport. How can anyone not be behind that?






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Re: Bowlero plans to kick out USBC is now painfully obvious
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2022, 03:34:12 PM »
Hey Bowls 300s,
How much has membership declined while Chad pulled dow 300k a year? Oh and what a genius move to resurrect the PWBA so we can flush more money down the drain funding a tour that’s never going to turn a profit.

Morpheus,

Why would I not be good with both?

Having a PWBA is fantastic and it grows the sport. How can anyone not be behind that?








Spoiler alert nothing Chad has done during his tenure has grown membership…
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