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six pack

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Red White and Blue
« on: April 26, 2010, 05:19:20 AM »
I have an opportunity to join a "PBA EXPERIENCE" league and was excited about it untill I read up on the red whit and blue patterns,they are described as basicly houe shots.are they challenging or not so much? my house used to put down a nice long flat pattern a few years ago but that changed as of this year.
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six pack

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Re: Red White and Blue
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 08:40:00 PM »
should of done a search first huh?
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=256910&ForumID=16&CategoryID=5
 
sounds like a bust.
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Edited on 4/26/2010 8:41 PM
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Tex

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Re: Red White and Blue
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 10:06:29 PM »
I had emailed with Steve Kloempkin before USBC laid him off and he said the patterns were no where close to ready. I asked if they would be ready by the end of July to possibly use for a tournament and he said not the final version. There might be a white that I could play with but it would be next fall at the earliest they roll out the real deal. Now that he is gone lost my contact so don't know the current status.

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Re: Red White and Blue
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 10:57:08 PM »
sounds like they're still working the kinks out and hopefully will be more challenging then the THS.WTH,it's a summer league and maybe what the fall/winter league will use so I'll give it a shot.
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snowspike1

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Re: Red White and Blue
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 01:02:17 AM »
so  I'm  a  little  confused..

are  these  going  to  be  a  standard oiling.   say  form  a  league with  the  red  pattern,white  and  blue   or  will  it  be  a  rotation.

the  house  I  will  be  bowling  winter  at  never  puts  the  same  thing  down  twice  (dont  even  think  its  the  same  lane  to  lane).  

some  standards might  be  good  but  as  long  as  it  doent  go  too  far/easy..

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Re: Red White and Blue
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 06:00:07 AM »
from my understanding for what I've read USBC wants to rotate these three patterns in league in the fall of 2010.they are still experimenting with the patterns and the idea.basicly run like a sport league but with house patterns.
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Re: Red White and Blue
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 07:16:27 AM »
The red, white and blue oil patterns became available in Spring 2010.  My house received the pattern three weeks ago and yesterday was my third time bowling on the blue oil pattern.  The pattern blue pattern is harder than your THS by far.  It is actually one step below the sport pattern, when it comes to the ratio of oil on the lane.  The sport oil pattern ratio is 3:1 and blue oil pattern is 4:1.  When looking at the oil on the lane from a 2d view it's more flat on the lane, meaning there is no dry broads on the outside and heavy oil in the middle. I can testify for a fact, when you are bowling on the blue oil pattern you have to be more accurate with your shot.  Unlike your THS your able to pull the ball inside of your target and the heavy oil in the middle part of the lane will hold your shot into the pocket, and if you miss your target to the outside, the dry part of the lane will bring it back.  You will not have that luxury on the blue pattern. Another thing hitting the pocket is not good enough on the blue pattern, trust me. Your ball entry angle cannot be too sharp and high, and your shot will have to be more direct as in finding the straightest angle possible.  

Another thing I learned from my house when talking to the mechanic, he said there are also type numbers that go along with the new oil patterns and they go from (Type I - Type III). <~~~ewwww!  

Now from what I read offline:

The red oil pattern it is the closest thing your going to find remotely close to your THS, but it is suppose to be a little bit more tougher. The white oil pattern is suppose to be a step up from that and the blue is the hardest of them all.  

All of these patterns were designed to make your average that you carry on the league, or going into tournaments more honorable than a THS that you, or anyone else could've of been bowling on for god who knows how long.
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Re: Red White and Blue
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 12:03:56 PM »
Thanks for the insite Southern Info!
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