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Fender

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Track problem
« on: September 07, 2009, 10:56:37 PM »
I have a problem with my track.
It goes between my fingers and thumb on spare ball
With a flaring ball it goes from right side of thumb hole - over thumb hole and then left of thumb hole. Full roller?
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Can anyone see problem with release on vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnhNG_ZtDjs
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i_throw_strikes

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Re: Track problem
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 07:05:28 AM »
yep full roller
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Re: Track problem
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 07:47:39 AM »
Is this intentional? Do you break back your wrist a lot upon release? If it is just on your spare ball, there is IMO no problem. I have a similar track through my spare ball release, with the fingers at 6 o'clock and the wrist bent back so that thumb and lower arm are in line. It raises my track 1" and even more, compared to my normal release (PAP 5" over and 7/8" up).
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Fender

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Re: Track problem
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 08:17:41 AM »
I break my wrist at release. Don't know a lot or not...
It's not only on my spare ball. When I use urethane with panckake core, then track is the same between fingers and thumb.
With ball that has flare - over thumb.
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Re: Track problem
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 08:34:38 AM »
If your urethane ball is drilled to flare (due to a stronger pin position), then your observation makes sense, because the spare ball will hardly flare at all and its track stay in the same area between fingers and thumb. But then I'd rather worry about your strike ball track, since it would flare across some holes and make the ball "jump" on the lane? If you do not want to change your release, a full roller layout could mend this.
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Fender

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Re: Track problem
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 08:44:50 AM »
My urethane does not flare at all. Just like spare ball.
Yes, stike ball sounds like train and of course it jumps a little bit when goes over thumb hole...
I would like to change my release, bu as I said, cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong at my release.
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Re: Track problem
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2009, 08:55:53 AM »
You are definitely throwing a full roller track! The rotation of your hand, AT RELEASE, is clockwise.No matter what you think you are doing, it is clockwise. I threw full roller for three years before I figured out how to throw 3/4 roll. You must learn to rotate counter clockwise as the thumb exits the ball. This can be very difficult for some people(me).I have taught others to do it in one day! It will be worth the effort.
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Re: Track problem
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 10:57:01 AM »
Full Roller!!!!  I went through this.  For me it was bad timing...I went a head and drilled a ball full roller and shot 300 with it..
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Re: Track problem
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 10:49:14 PM »
You really should plug your strike ball and have it redrilled with a full roller layout.  That will make the flare go in the opposite direction and your track won't hit any holes.  The later flare rings will be close to straight across the grip centerline.  Or learn a 3/4 release.  Any good driller knows better than to use a 3/4 layout for a full roller.    --  JohnP
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Fender

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Re: Track problem
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2009, 11:46:55 AM »
Thanks for advice!
I think, that the problem is, that rotation of my hand at release is clockwise!
When my thumb comes out of ball, it goes to the right side.
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Baliktad

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Re: Track problem
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2009, 04:38:17 AM »
The thumb going to the right is not the cause of you throwing a fullroller. Your thumb and fingers rotate to the right. Your thumb can rotate right, but fingers should rotate left or counter clockwise. Go to the slowmo link you posted and watch Wes Mallot's thumb and you will see what I mean.
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Re: Track problem
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2009, 12:26:05 PM »
Had a guy here with the exact same thing.  Finally got a ball drilled specifically for a full roller release and he throws it great!  Gets a good reaction and doesn't hit the holes anymore.
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