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hd12b

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bowling ball top weight
« on: March 22, 2015, 08:13:28 PM »
I just had my first experience with buying a bowling ball with limited top weight. What happened to higher top weight equipment. I purchased a Rocket asking for 4 ounces of top weight got 3.12. Any company still make equipment with higher top weight left. I'm an old school bowler that needs the extra length.
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Blockbuster Bowling

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Re: bowling ball top weight
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2015, 08:30:58 PM »
You are not going to get any more length with 4 top versus 3.12 as your primary ball reaction from bowling balls these days is the surface of the ball and I would have to say at least 75% of reaction come from ball surface.

Top weight does not matter any more except for drilling a motion / balance hole as the more top weight there is in a ball the larger the hole is necessary to get it within the outdated USBC rules.

Also, Cg no matter, side weight no matter, finger /thumb weight no matter.

Put some polish on the ball if you want it to go longer and add surface to make it read the lane sooner.






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charlest

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Re: bowling ball top weight
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2015, 09:05:48 PM »
Quote from: hd12b on March 22, 2015, 08:13:28 PM
I just had my first experience with buying a bowling ball with limited top weight. What happened to higher top weight equipment. I purchased a Rocket asking for 4 ounces of top weight got 3.12. Any company still make equipment with higher top weight left. I'm an old school bowler that needs the extra length.

sorry, guy, have to agree with Blockbuster. Length comes primarily from surface,  your release and ball speed, with drilling a secondary influence. Static weights have no more than a trivial influence, unless you're drilling a pancake core. The Rocket does not have a pancake core.
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hd12b

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Re: bowling ball top weight
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2015, 10:08:12 PM »
i agree to a point.  My ball speed is slow and revs high. I have tried several different types of drillings. None of them has worked well. Right now I am using urethane equipment in my center due to extremely dry back ends. All my reactives are over/under. Equipment I use. (Supernatural, Tropical Breeze hybrid, and Pitch Black. Averaging 190 so far this season.
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charlest

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Re: bowling ball top weight
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 05:34:51 AM »
Quote from: hd12b on March 22, 2015, 10:08:12 PM
i agree to a point.  My ball speed is slow and revs high. I have tried several different types of drillings. None of them has worked well. Right now I am using urethane equipment in my center due to extremely dry back ends. All my reactives are over/under. Equipment I use. (Supernatural, Tropical Breeze hybrid, and Pitch Black. Averaging 190 so far this season.

Still, worrying about top weight in the ball won't help in the least.
FYI There are drillings, surfaces and balls that can help a lot; I am also rev dominant; I know what you are going through, believe me.

Heck, I sold my SuperNatural because it was too over/under. I like the New Blue Hammer much better - better control, better length even with a dull surface and better hitting power.
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Re: bowling ball top weight
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 09:40:38 AM »
1 inch pin to pap with some surface. Try it. You'll like it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 04:35:20 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on March 23, 2015, 09:40:38 AM
1 inch pin to pap with some surface. Try it. You'll like it.

What angles would you suggest with the one inch pin to pap?
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hd12b

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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 05:49:05 PM »
Thanks for the replies and the tip. I will try the one inch pin to pap. I admit I'm an old school bowler. I'm having trouble finding layouts that work for me. I tried the 120 x 5 x 45 that the Brunswick rep suggested.(worked good until lanes dried out) haven't been able to use it in two years.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 07:48:04 PM »
Angles depend. I usually like the pin to be in the 60 to 65 degree area. Keep the cg in for no extra hole. Surface prep will play a much bigger part in ball motion due to the reduced flare.
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Re: bowling ball top weight
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2015, 07:25:58 AM »
Quote from: hd12b on March 23, 2015, 05:49:05 PM
Thanks for the replies and the tip. I will try the one inch pin to pap. I admit I'm an old school bowler. I'm having trouble finding layouts that work for me. I tried the 120 x 5 x 45 that the Brunswick rep suggested.(worked good until lanes dried out) haven't been able to use it in two years.

The drilling angle (first number) should not go that high.  You need to keep the numbers between 10 and 90 otherwise you risk inverting the core.  Try a layout like 70 x 2 x 60.  This layout will give the ball length (first number larger), low flare (second number under 3)and slow transition (third number larger).  This is a layout that I did on the new LT48 and it is really smooth and controlled with no sudden movements.  I am a high rev player and I like this layout for dry lanes.
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