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bowlerstyle

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bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« on: July 22, 2004, 10:19:19 AM »
I figured out that I've been missing a ball from my arsenal and that ball would be something for over/under or spotty lane conditons.  My game doesn't need much work or a quad-milla-zillion (I made that one up, nice huh?) bowling balls but I need an over/under ball.  I'm a tweener, maybe stroker sometimes, with about medium revs and ball speed.  What kind of ball would you recommend?  I was looking for a ball reaction that would be pretty smooth throughout the entire lane without jumpy movements and a little bit of an arc at the end, sort of like a urethane ball (but I don't know if those will hook enough).  HELP ME OUT!!!


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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2004, 01:21:17 AM »
I have a Monster Slay/R sanded to 800 grit with a green scotchbrite pad, that thing is so smooth you have no idea. WANT IT?!
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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2004, 01:27:07 AM »
Fuze Eliminator with your favorite drill. Get 'em now while they're still cheap on Ebay.

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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2004, 01:27:23 AM »
thanks but not thanks, I don't buy bowling balls. I have some hook-ups.

bowlerstyle

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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2004, 01:29:02 AM »
are you kidding me Randy?  Eliminators hook a crap load, especially if it can find a little dry.

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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2004, 01:39:55 AM »
Go old school- Blue Triton with a low RG drill fills this hole for me now.
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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2004, 01:48:18 AM »
bowlerstyle,

Go with a solid reactive.  That will help blend in the over under.  If you can get your hands on a Track Crunch, Ebonite V2 Solid, Track Havoc, Visionary Centaur, just to name a few, go for it.  DO NOT go with pearl reactives or even some high end particles.  High end particles tend to roll too early and pearl reactives only exaggerate the over under.  Trust me on this.  After a couple years of constant struggle on this condition, I finally listened to my pro shop operator and he suggested the Crunch by Track.  I have been kicking myself ever since.  That ball is amazing on the over under condition and wish Track had not discontinued them so soon.  My Crunch is a 16 pound, 2.5 inch pin with the pin over my ringer finger and the c.g. and mass shifted outide the grip slightly.  Memory serves me correctly, the drilling is a 4 x 4 drilling.  If you have any other questions, let me know.  Good luck.
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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2004, 01:50:16 AM »
He said an over/under smoother - not a dry lanes ball. Light load particle balls are good at smoothing out over under conditions. Judging from his self-description, I don't think he's concerned about the ball hooking a "crap-load".
Fuze-Eliminator will hook on dry (as will any ball), but it is even and predictable on most medium to medium heavy conditions. It's one of the smoothest, most predictable balls I've seen.

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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2004, 02:16:55 AM »
Randy,

I mean no disrespect, but since when are the Crunch and Havoc considered dry lane balls?  I know the V2 Solid not to be a dry lane ball and I know for a fact the Centaur is not a dry lane ball.  Also, since you are talking about his self description, he said he wants something with a little bit of arc on the rear.  The Eliminator, while smooth, is much sooner than the ball I listed and on an over under condition, you need length.  Another ball that he may like is V2 Dry where he can move into the track area or even the Slate Blue Gargoyle.  Also...he never said anything about being in a medium to heavy condition.  He only stated over under.  On that type of condition, solid reactives will win hands down over particle balls, unless you are really rev challenged.  Granted the Slate Blue is a urethane and not a reactive, but the core is stronger and thus gives it more playability on that type of condition.  But, all in all, I just know from my own experience that most particle balls will be too touchy when it hits the drier boards of an over under condition.  I know and understand that people have difference in opinions, but I had other people more qualified than myself embedded it into me , "Solid reactive, solid reactive, solid reactive."
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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2004, 02:25:12 AM »
TWOHAND34 - I was typing my response the same time you did yours - it was just a matter of which one went up there first. My response was meant to answer bowlerstyle's remark about "hooking a crapload" - it was not in response to your reply. Then I realized shortly after posting that the the "responder" was the original poster. Then I gave up. I withdraw my previous advice. Buy a 3-dot. It's an under/under ball, but it is predictable.

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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2004, 02:36:18 AM »
OOPS - Don't BUY a 3-dot. Go hook-up with the house-ball rack.

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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2004, 02:47:50 AM »
Randy,

Thats cool.  No reason to give up, though.  All in good fun.
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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2004, 03:06:03 AM »
Roto Grip Rush might be a good choice.
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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2004, 08:29:38 AM »
I went to a 2001 Black Hammer drill leverage. It works great and hits like a ton. When I got this ball I hated it. It's now in my bag for this very condition.

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Re: bowling balls for over/under conditions....
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2004, 09:01:17 AM »
bowlerstyle, for an over/under condition, symmetrical core balls will work best. A lower RG, "pin in", and/or a "CG out drilling", will also help in giving you an even arcing motion.

Also, lower weight values, i.e. side finger and top, and/or going more negative, will give you a smoother arcing motion, creating less over/under.

I would try a Lane #1 ball. The Uranium Buzzsaw (slightly dulled) or maybe their new Solid Uranium when it becomes available should work well. The Black Cherry Bomb may also be a good choice, as well as a Blueberry/C2 if you can get your hands on one. =:^D

Edited on 7/23/2004 9:16 AM