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gHatMan

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Bowling Camps
« on: May 19, 2008, 11:47:47 AM »
I've been working on my game lately and learned that coaching is very valuable since a friend that runs a local pro shop at my bowling alley worked with me. I was wondering if anybody knew about any bowling camps around the east coast (mainly New Jersey). Also, I just want an opinion on bowling camps. Do they really have a huge impact on your game even if you have a 200 average?

 

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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2008, 07:54:46 PM »
http://www.ritgerbowlingcamp.com/

Dick Ritger's in Ithaca NY. It's not Jersey but I hear that it's worth the trip.


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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2008, 08:23:00 PM »
since wes malott is no longer with columbia, is he still going to be there?

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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2008, 08:27:43 PM »
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http://www.bowlersdreamcamp.com/

Can it get any better then this?
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2008, 10:51:00 PM »
If you are looking for fundamentals work there is probably nothing better than the Ritger camps.  May seem old fashioned but the man and his stuff are great.

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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 01:00:47 AM »
Having been to a couple "clinics" I can say that the money invested would be better spent on intensive private lessons with at high level coach and lots of practice.  

Clinics are overpriced and if you buy the 'ball' option you'll get some weird pin configuration the manufacterer is trying to get rid of.  

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 12:04:26 PM »
wichita state bowling camps are really good. I went there for three years
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 02:53:12 PM »
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http://www.bowlersdreamcamp.com/

Can it get any better then this?


According to the site "Ball Layouts and Surface Adjustment by Dino Castillo".

That made me chuckle in light of a memory of watching Dino fight with his ball rep, sending his ball rep to the bar for many drinks, and Dino proceeding to lose his match to an opponent who kept missing spares.

That is an expensive clinic.
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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 03:06:08 PM »
BTM Super School in Middletown OH?  Its drivable distance from NJ and the top coaches in the country are there.  It may be a little on the expensive side, but I would definitely think worthwhile.  I have worked with two different Ritger certified instructors.  Both were/are very good.  Like commented on above, stress solid fundamentals.  Balance, timing, free arm swing, etc.  They have lots of drills to help get the correct "feel."  To me this made a lot of sense and has really helped my game.  As far as "average," thats the last thing I would worry about right now.. any changes to ones game (even minor) can temporarily impact scoring.  However, generally in the long run a well-coached bowler will more consistently score higher...

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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2008, 08:59:25 PM »
http://www.bowl.com/articleView.aspx?i=14472&f=1

Ritger is 1st coach elected into coaches HOF. ^^^
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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2008, 08:58:31 AM »
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A young man from our area, averaging 190+ or so, went off to a Ritger camp.
Came back, he was the prettiest bowler you've ever seen.    Posted every shot, follow through was the best.

Average fell from 190+ to 150's.    Quit bowling.  

He was so caught up in "fundamentals" he forgot how to bowl.


Same thing happened to me after a Del Warren clinic.  I'm a high 190s average bowler, and the first week after the clinic I posted my only 400 series of the year.  Talk about frustrating!  I tried to change too much all at once.

The next week, I went back to how I was bowling before the clinic, but slowly incorporated some of the things I learned in the clinic.  In the end, I got much more out of the experience by adding these elements to my current game, rather than totally changing my current game.

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I have been there as well. Small changes at a time seem to work the best. When I was back in Sioux Falls when I started to get some coaching I was around 190-195 just could not break the 200 point. Started to get some coaching at first my coach wanted to make big changes my average dropped 10 pins. We then went back to my game and started to make small changes to get to the big change all together. Once we did that I started to average around 205. I guess what I am trying to say is that you need to remember to take your time and not change everything all at once. Work on one thing get that down and then start on something else.
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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2008, 10:11:16 AM »
If Ron Clifton comes to your area to do a clinic, it is worth the money.  3 days, no more than 8 bowlers, and small changes.  He video tapes each bowler, lets him/her know what he sees, then gives a drill to start with.  Once he has finished with the initial, he consistently watches and revises as needed.  No cookie cutter, each receives individualized instruction.
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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2008, 08:56:53 PM »
Ron will be at Super School this year
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2008, 11:16:28 PM »
I am actually going through this myself right now.  I making drastic changes to my game from many angles.  You have to decide which change to make first and master it.  Then on to the next and so-on.  Practice practice practice.  You cannot decide to make a change and throw a half dozen games and be ready to do it every time.  For my summer changes, I expect to throw about 1000 games of practice to get where I want to be.

I compare bowling to golf a lot because they both require a lot of body motions to come together at a specific point with specific timing that has a near 0 margin of error.  When I made 2 small changes to my golf swing a couple years back I estimated that I hit 20,000 practice balls for each of the two changes I made to get to the point where I could repeat it on demand.  To this day, I still revert back now and then and the result is hideous.

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Re: Bowling Camps
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2008, 11:27:12 PM »
Dino was the ball rep on the PBA tour and has been a driller in the Dallas area for quite awhile, I think he is great choice after meeting him a few times.

Down to earth nice guy funny as he11, I do agree the Bowlersdream camp is like going to the Super Bowl too much money for 95 percent of us cheap azzes.