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TWOHAND834

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Bowling - Dying Industry??
« on: May 04, 2008, 11:25:46 PM »
This is interesting.  It claims that bowling is a dying industry unless the manufacturers can "hip it up again".  Supposedly, in 10 years, you won't see much of them around unless you live in a BIG city.  What a shame.




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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2008, 08:09:00 AM »
down 5-6% doesnt seem too bad though given the state of most economies around the world... i'm sure most recreational activities that cost money to do (presumably this article is only talking about recreational revenue) are done somewhat...

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008, 09:47:13 AM »
This article also claims that beer is a dying industry....so they lose some credibility with me.  I mean seriously....Beer?
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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 09:54:49 AM »
The future of the sport lies with youth bowling.  Helping your area youth leagues stay active and grow will not only benefit the local centers but also keep the sport growing.
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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2008, 10:02:18 AM »
IMHO the bowling industry is going through a concentration phase, but that's a normal market mechanism. But I am sure that small, independent companies will have hard time for the next couple of years - unless they move swiftly and fill gaps that will automatically appear in the market. I would not worry too much - but I am with proconnor: not the industry itself is at stake, but the next generation of bowlers (which might already got lost to PC games and the like) who are their customers.
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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2008, 10:05:16 AM »
That seems about right.  My company's revenues are down that amount also.  UPS or some other shipping company just reported their first quarterly losses ever.  We'RE ALL GONNA DIE.  Well, probably not.  But I bet mid to lower priced bowling balls go up in sales
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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2008, 10:35:50 AM »
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This is interesting.  It claims that bowling is a dying industry unless the manufacturers can "hip it up again".  Supposedly, in 10 years, you won't see much of them around unless you live in a BIG city.  


don't keep fooling yourself bowling is going down look at amf close 21 one of there bowling center .They had one in queen that had at least three league a nite. And none of the other big name co step in to buy out the houses remember

no bowling center no bowler no body buy your bowling ball

Phillip Marlowe

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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2008, 10:57:23 AM »
Bowling is competing with other "entertainment" businesses now.  This is the inevitable by-product of screwing up your repeat business (leagues) for the more fickle weekend entertainment bowler -- i.e., you compete with: Chuck E. Cheese and the like, parks, restaurants, lazer tag, paint ball, science museums, minor and major league baseball, country clubs, magicians, movies, professional and amateur plays, concerts, bars ...

The fact is proprietors have taken the short term view, the unit cost view and have helped kill their own industry.  Frankly, I hope many of them succeed and end up in the poor house.  Bowling should be a way for the average person to compete, relatively inexpensively, in a league.  When it becomes all about the "event," ultimately bowling will lose out.  There will be fewer and fewer houses, eventually the sport will die.

A wise man once said to me, "let the game sell itself" ... i.e., just try to get people in the door with the idea that they are not there for the "event," but for the game.  He runs the most successful house I know of...just thinking...
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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 11:15:19 AM »
Dying, maybe not, but it is definitely a shrinking industry.



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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2008, 02:12:20 PM »
Let me expand a little bit.  Bowling, as a business, is in a transition.  As a small business (and most bowling centers are still family owned or owned in small groups), bowling centers are LESS likely to fail than most other small businesses.  

What makes bowling so attractive as a business is the league structure that underlies bowling.  One estimate indicates that approximately 40% of an average center's revenues come from guaranteed league contracts.  This base of revenue allows proprietors to seek out additional, higher margin business because it provides a stable and predictable cash flow -- and that cash flow is the lifeblood of small businesses especially.  Leagues also have the advantage of only requiring one "sell" to get a relatively long term financial commitment.  In essence, the league base is a base with lower selling costs and stable income.  That makes the base business very attractive.

When you can add other "entertainment" options -- games, lazer tag, pizza, etc., to the "league" base, you have the opportunity to maximize open bowling and "event" useage.  These activities have higher "revenue" per unit but also higher costs in time and selling (costs which, because they are considered overhead are partially paid for by league revenues, thus, to some degree, artificially inflating the profitability of event and open bowling).  Further, by having the leagues cover most if not all basic expenses, each additional dollar is high value -- the marginal profits of additional business are necessarily greater because the base costs are paid for through the leagues.  But the lineage for the leagues is generally lower than lineage for a similar reserved group and has not tended to go up with inflation.  So increased prices for lineage have not been felt as much by leagues, probably to the detriment of league bowling in the eyes of the accountants.

Bowling also has other advantages.  Despite what you might think, the average income of "regular" or repeat bowling customers is now about 20% above the national average.  That's right, 20%.  60% of bowlers come from "professional" businesses -- sales, management, office, etc. and over 60% own their homes.

So why is bowling supposed to "shrink."  Well, it has to do with the make-up of the customer base.  As the population has expanded, more people bowl at least once a year.  The percentage of the populace that bowls several times a year has gone down somewhat however, partially because of the decline of leagues and partially because of other available entertainment choices.  So while nominally the businesses revenues have been growing or staying stable because of an increasing population and price increases for open and event play (an unheralded part of the increase in bowling's revenue), bowling as an industry has, almost certainly hit and begun the bounce down from the ceiling.  Centers which do not cultivate leagues and try to get young people into leagues will find that the leagues they have are drying up.  Open bowling will decline, largely because it has been something of a fad.  It will, as all such fads, lose luster.  Thus, despite its very good demographics, increased youth interest and a superior business model (leagues plus open) have problems as less investment and interest is placed on creating the base of customers that leagues provide.  Remember, league bowlers are often "open" bowlers, who bring their families to the game and help prop up the rest of the business.

Further, leagues create community -- and thus "pressure" to return and remain a part of the community and to abide by its norms.  The more personalized service is -- the more repeat customers are part of the community, the more the community patronizes the establishment.  If you insist on an open community (good and fun handicap leagues) the whole structure can be self sustaining.  If, however, this "community" function is overlooked or downplayed, the bowling center becomes just another lazer tag or bar, albeit with large capital requirements.  

That is why the industry is shrinking.  In my opinion.
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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 06:14:02 PM »
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This article also claims that beer is a dying industry....so they lose some credibility with me.  I mean seriously....Beer?
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A liquor store owner here in NJ once told you me you could sell piss in the summer if you put it in a beer bottle and sold it cold.

Beer is NOT a dying industry.
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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 06:27:57 PM »
Regarding Marlowe's position:

Here in NJ, many leagues die, from what I have seen, for two reasons:
1. Center management insisting on every league bowling 36 weeks during the fall/winter season. In many other states,a 34 - 36 week league is not the mainstay. Most are 2 x 15 weeks or 4 x 8 weeks. Peopel do not have to commit to bowling for 9 months.

2. Prize funds being unreasonably high. Note I did not say anything about leagues fees paying for the 3 lines/games per night. Although that goes up every year (rightly or unjustly, I will not argue), what breaks most bowlers' backs is the total league fee. Even in 4 person (not 5 person) mixed handicap (not scratch) leagues, the lowest fees seem to be about $18; the average seems to be $20. In Oregon, Arizona and Washington, 3 states in which I have bowling friends, many mixed handicap leagues are considered to be high at $13 per week!
That's a huge difference. AND Arizona, Oregon and Washignton do not lack for bowlign leagues. They are decreasing VERY rapidly here in NJ!!  A friend in Washington bowls 5 days a week, all in mixed handicap leagues.


I used to see lots of the X and Y generation coming in mixed-sex groups (group dates?) to bowl after we were finished late, 2nd shift leagues. It was 12:00 AM and 12:30 AM when they started bowling on Friday nights.

I also think center management is burning their bridges (guaranteed income) by not going after leagues or allowing them to dissipate. Many, many leagues have closed since the late 1990s, and in more and more major houses..

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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2008, 06:41:35 PM »
I have to argue against the get kids off video games, violent video games bit.

Im 17, turning 18 in July, I love video games, I love violent video games, ive been playing GTAIV constantly for a week, and yet, I still love bowling, and travel to tournaments etc. etc.

Video Games are not killing the bowling industry lol.

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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2008, 06:54:24 PM »
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I have to argue against the get kids off video games, violent video games bit.

Im 17, turning 18 in July, I love video games, I love violent video games, ive been playing GTAIV constantly for a week, and yet, I still love bowling, and travel to tournaments etc. etc.

Video Games are not killing the bowling industry lol.


Well, how much more bowling would you be doing if you did not have these video games to play?
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Re: Bowling - Dying Industry??
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2008, 07:04:22 PM »
None. I still wouldn't go to my local house during the week after school because its pointless. Rubber might be the best solution for the shot because plastic hooks too much.

When there is a good opportunity to practice or bowl a tournament I take advantage of them, I don't stay home to play video games. Its just a hobby, like anything else. Don't single out video games for the purposes of this topic.