Post by: Scolai on January 05, 2007, 04:58:58 AM
The guys at espn.com (http://"http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills") don't think so. They rank bowling at #57 on the list of 60 most difficult sports. That ranking puts it behind badminton, table tennis, and cheerleading. Not saying those sports aren't tough, just that I don't think bowling is evaluated fairly.
People just don't get this sport.
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Post by: directdrill on January 05, 2007, 01:15:03 PM
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Post by: baccala8872 on January 05, 2007, 01:16:09 PM
I played collegiate tennis and would probably be able to give a club level tennis player more problems on his court than he could give me on a bowling lane.
I can still throw a football into a garbage can from 30 yards away and can still put some air under a football too (to the tune of 50-55 yards). I've seen TO bowl, and it ain't too special.
I can't play to the level of those whackos on the table tennis circuit, but my game would be closer to theirs than a 6-game bowling marathon would be.
I may still be able to get around on 80mph heat, but most baseball players couldn't stick with us when we use our Track Heat.
Yes, there are exceptions to the rule. There are good bowlers out there (Jerome Bettis for one....and I don't think I could even slow him down, never mind tackling that mountain) in other sports, but I don't think they are as well-rounded as we bowlers.
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Post by: KDawg77 on January 05, 2007, 01:20:10 PM
Then again, Bowling is not a sport because you have to rent the shoes. (Well, except us who own their own.)
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Post by: Pinbuster on January 05, 2007, 01:26:13 PM
I don’t remember all the skills, there was weight lifting, golf, swimming, a 50 yard sprint, a 440 sprint, bicycling, I believe bowling was in for a while, etc. You pick like 8 of the 10 and you couldn’t do your own sport.
Bowling had 2 or 3 entrants over the years (I believe Jim Stefanich was one of them). All finished well down the list.
I could argue on some of the individual skills rankings but in reality I don’t know if I disagree with where they put bowling using the criteria they had. I might have moved bowling up 10 spots at most.
Post by: T Brockette on January 05, 2007, 01:43:07 PM
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Post by: TwoFourEightNineNine on January 05, 2007, 01:45:09 PM
If more guys in bowling were at least more athletic looking, rather than looking at the stereotypical image of the fat, alcoholic gambler.,.. we'd see bowling up a little higher... but not by much.
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Post by: Re-Evolution on January 05, 2007, 01:59:47 PM
Hand eye coordination should be quick reflexes
Nerve should be fear factor
Proper decriptions would be:
Hand eye cordination - the ability to hit an object with precision. ie: batter hitting the baseball, bowler hitting his mark.
Nerve - The ability to ignore emotion allowing you to perform the desired task with precision. ie: basketball player knocking down that buzzer beater, bowler striking out in the 10th to win by 1.
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Post by: shipper50 on January 05, 2007, 02:07:36 PM
Just try hitting a target at 50 yards with one hand and your target is about 2 inches in diameter. I shot for 10 years and was no where the shooter I am as a bowler. If you jerk the trigger just a hair you can miss the target completely. Jerk the bowling ball and you might leave a 10 pin.
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Post by: 9andaWiggle on January 05, 2007, 02:16:25 PM
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Post by: MAJM on January 05, 2007, 02:28:08 PM
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What other sport besides pool can you be fat and unfit and still do relatively well? Pin-nut says badminton, table tennis and cheerleading should not be ahead of bowling. Well, I'd love to see a fat person doing well in those three. Especially in cheerleading.
Fat and unfit.
How about Golf?
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Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on January 05, 2007, 02:59:30 PM
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I suppose Rome helped come up with the numbers. What a joke. Pin-nut said it best, people just don't get it.
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Post by: DerHornen on January 05, 2007, 03:49:13 PM
Take Norm Duke for example. He is truly a great bowler, but would you pick him for any other sport that's athletically difficult. Basketball, football, baseball, track, swimming, even cheerleading? I don't know this for sure, but I imagine he's not very fast, quick, or strong.
Bowling requires a good mix of form, coordination, mental toughness, knowledge, and skill. That's still not enough to make it tougher than even cheerleading, which these days requires a good bit of athleticism and gymnastic ability on top of all those other things.
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Post by: a_ak57 on January 05, 2007, 04:00:27 PM
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What other sport besides pool can you be fat and unfit and still do relatively well? Pin-nut says badminton, table tennis and cheerleading should not be ahead of bowling. Well, I'd love to see a fat person doing well in those three. Especially in cheerleading.
Fat and unfit.
How about Golf?
True, but golf still uses more effort. Ever go to the range and hit balls for a solid two hours? I have and felt far worse than after bowling solo for two hours. Not to mention, if you man up and actually walk the course you're getting considerably more exercise than bowling. The only walking we do in bowling is for a few seconds at a time, and in a league setting you then wait several minutes before repeating.
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Post by: Re-Evolution on January 05, 2007, 04:23:12 PM
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Another argument for the lack of difficulty in bowling is luck. Take any of the sports on the ESPN list and compare it to bowling. In which one of the other sports are you more likely to luck it out? I'm not saying it's likely to win with luck, but the possibility of it occurring is much more likely with regards to bowling.
Just to name a few that have an equal amount of luck involved.
Baseball: One team can pound the ball all game but always hit is right at someone, while the other team gets bloopers to fall all game.
Boxing: You could be giving the other guy a clinic for 9 rounds and then he lands that 1 lucky punch to end it in the 10th.
Football: The coach calling the right plays at the right times.
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Post by: Re-Evolution on January 05, 2007, 04:29:07 PM
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Take Norm Duke for example. He is truly a great bowler, but would you pick him for any other sport that's athletically difficult. Basketball, football, baseball, track, swimming, even cheerleading? I don't know this for sure, but I imagine he's not very fast, quick, or strong.
You single him out because of his small stature.
Last time I checked smaller guys are generally quicker, faster in short distances, and the only person in olympic history to ever press 3 times his weight (305#) was a small guy (135#) so I don't see where you say he can't be strong. Can you lift 305# over your head?
Strength is a relative term IMHO.
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Post by: DerHornen on January 05, 2007, 05:55:15 PM
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You single him out because of his small stature.
Last time I checked smaller guys are generally quicker, faster in short distances, and the only person in olympic history to ever press 3 times his weight (305#) was a small guy (135#) so I don't see where you say he can't be strong. Can you lift 305# over your head?
Strength is a relative term IMHO.
I only singled him out because he is a very good bowler who happens to not be athletic in the traditional sense. He's not the only one. I'm not saying small guys can't be fast and strong. Look at the average cornerback or safety in the NFL. A lot of those guys are under 180 lbs and shorter than 5'10", but they're quick as lightning and they're probably all stronger than I am.
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Post by: BOWL119 on January 05, 2007, 06:00:04 PM
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I just wish there was a way that we as bowlers could go out and compete against other sports enthusiasts/amateurs/whatevers and prove ourselves in the athletic world.
I say we challenge Berman, Ditka, Irvin, Jackson, The Schwab and all the other people at ESPN to a tournament in RENO and see how they do. After all, they would have to bowl 100+ games and then try to make it to the Championship round.
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Post by: Mvpbowler on January 05, 2007, 06:10:30 PM
How do you put baseball and softball in the same category?!?! Alot of equipment isn't even the same.. I don't understand..
And then they put boxing #1.. HAHA!! Right
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Post by: Jzero on January 05, 2007, 06:10:31 PM
A sport that would be on there is for the golf caddies. They carry bags up to 50 pounds for 30 miles or more a week. Now that takes so strong and stamina. Also, referees have it harder than bowlers, they have to run around the court or field the whole game with no brakes. I doubt many people on this site could do that.
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on January 05, 2007, 06:24:34 PM
Anyone that thinks bowling is not a sport needs to think about this you use more muscle groops to bowl than any other sport there is,and you have to be able to use your brains a little bit also so I myself do consider it to be a sport. Just my two cents
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According to George Carlin Cheerleading is NOT a sport. Reason being: no ball.
That is a good assesment and would eliminate other "activities" from the list. I look at it this way, anything where you are "judged" is not a sport. If you win because somebody's "opinion" is that you performed better, it's not a sport. Look at what happened in figure skating with the judging scandal. To be a sport you have to be able to go out and beat your opponents by scoring better than them. Not by somebody deciding that you did. That would eliminate Figure Skating, gymnastics, some rodeo events, surfing, freestyle skiing, diving, skateboarding and cheerleading. Now I am not saying that people that participate in these events aren't athletes. What I am saying is that they do not compete in a "sport". These events are mere entertainment and nobody can truly "win".
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Post by: Jzero on January 05, 2007, 06:34:55 PM
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To be a sport you have to be able to go out and beat your opponents by scoring better than them. Not by somebody deciding that you did. That would eliminate Figure Skating, gymnastics, some rodeo events, surfing, freestyle skiing, diving, skateboarding and cheerleading
Then by going by this you would also have to eliminate boxing, UFC fight, Karate, other marshal arts, wrestling, etc... Also, by this definition, poker, chess checkers, video games, and all other board games are considered sports. So look some sports have to be judged, thats just the way they work.
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