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hookem

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bowling in a handicap league
« on: February 11, 2005, 01:02:55 AM »
I have a question for you people.  I bowl in a handicap fun league on Thursday nights.  Most of the people there have low averages, bowl 3 games a week and socialize; typical handicap league (26 teams).  Well a friend of mine asked me to bowl with them, they were one person short.  I typically bowl in scratch or more competitive leagues.  But I figured hey, it's only $12 a week, it gets me more practice, I get another chance at break the bank (strike in certain frames for jackpot), and I'll get something back at the end of league.  Well our team is absolutely crushing everyone else.  I'm averaging 230, my team mate is at 215 and during double point money weeks (position rounds) we haven't lost, and we've won 80% of our games for the season.  So I pose this.  Do you think it's fair to be bowling this?  I know I shouldn't feel bad for shooting high but it almost feels like taking candy from a baby.  Even though most everyone is nice in the league I feel like behind my back they say, why is he bowling this league, or I'm not coming back next season.  Do you think other teams feel as though they can't compete?

 

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2005, 09:18:31 AM »
How is the handicap determined?  What are the averages of the other members of your team?
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hookem

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2005, 09:28:10 AM »
230, 195, 215, 165, 170

Handicap is 80% of 200.

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2005, 10:00:51 AM »
The way the handicap is determined, you obviously have quite a bit of advantage.

I wouldn't feel guilty about it.  Every handicap league has a couple of strong teams that will dominate.

If you would like to bowl on this league again next year you might suggest changing the handicap system.  My mixed leagues use either 80% or 90% handicap.
They all however run it off a number above the highest entering average.  That definitely helps to level the playing field.

How many points are you ahead of the second place team?  What's the point system?


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hookem

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2005, 10:14:03 AM »
It's divided into thirds (36 week league) with 4 divisions.  The winner of each third get's into the rolloff plus one wildcard team.  There's a position round the 10th week.  Then there's a big bracket that all the teams are placed into.  Division A bowls against B, division C against division D.  Of course the top seeds from each division bowl against each other, and the rest follow sequentially in the bracket.  Well the winner of the match against A and B will bowl the winner of division C and D to determine who wins the third.  If a team wins multiple thirds the team that finishes 2nd gets into the rolloff (I believe, not certain).  It's based off a 7 point per night system.  2 for each game and 1 for total.  weeks 11 and 12 are double point money nights.  We won the first third and next week is the last week of the 2nd third and we bowl the winner of division A and B.  The overall wins are also noted in the standings sheet and we're roughly 35-40 points ahead of the team with the second most wins.  It pays based on point money, where you finish for the third and then the rolloff pays extra.

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2005, 10:16:53 AM »
The way the hdcp is figured your getting around 55-60 free sticks with the 2 averages over 200.  At that rate you should be winning 80%.

hookem

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2005, 12:02:28 PM »
Thanks for all the input.  Alaskabill, I've had some of the things that you mentioned happen.  The house hack resents me, it's funny actually.  I never talk about bowling, and I'm always courteous to the other bowlers.  Most of what was mentioned I do.  Thanks again, everyone

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2005, 12:12:47 PM »
I'm totally amazed at the complexity of the system being used.

  It seems like an awful lot of calculation and coordination for a so called social league.  Since you're only paying $12.00 per week, there obviously can't be much of a prize fund.  Seems like a lot of work for so little return.


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hookem

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2005, 12:20:23 PM »
I just bowl, no work on my part.  The officers set it up and I'm sure it's been this way for some time.  Payouts not that great I'm sure, don't recall the sheet, I just know it's based off what I said earlier.

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Re: bowling in a handicap league
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2005, 01:51:51 PM »
The Monday night leauge I bowl in is a handicapped leauge. My team has averages of 207, 206, 195, 188, 165. We are not dominating this leauge. There are some bowlers in this leauge with 215+ averages. The reason we do not dominate is the handicap is based on 100% of 220. With this handicap everyone in the leauge has a handicap and thus the playing field is more level. I also bowl on a 3 man leauge where the handicap is 80% of 200 but if you average over 200 you will receive a negative handicap. Just some ideas on making the leauge more competitive. Also as long as you are a good sport I don't belive anyone should have a problem with you.
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