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Smash49

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Bowling is mostly mental
« on: February 26, 2012, 07:23:57 AM »
I understand that.  Pete Weber is a great bowler I understand that.  Letting Pete Weber go off on a fan in the stands is not great.  Pete may have been PO'd at the fan but doing what he did on national TV was uncalled for.  At one point he said something about sportsmanship?  What about his sportsmanship toward his opponent?  I did notice Belmonte was drinking out of a glass!  The proper thing that should have happened would be to bring the distraction to the attention of the tournament officials.  The tv announcers had no idea who Weber was mad at but he intimidated one side of the lane.  These are suppose to be Professionals bowling and this gives a bad image of the sport.  This is especially bad when many newspapers, school districts and their administrators do not think bowling is a sport at all.  It's hard to win over people that have opinions of the sport that are bad when this happens.
 
If the image of smoke filled, beer drinking dungeons with crude low class people is to ever be improved the sport and the best at it need to conduct themselves responsibly.
 
Some people ay that is just Pete.  Maybe it is but the tournament needed to step in.  Other sports fine players and coaches for the same actions.
 
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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 03:53:37 PM »
 I was unable to watch the telecast, but what did this spectator do?  
This was a big tournament, so was the spectator purposely distracting PDW and he decided to take matters in his own hands and put this person in his place?  Shouldn't have happened on either side, but PDW reacted to it and the spotlight is on him. Isn't he called the "bad boy" of bowling?  Maybe it was rigged for entertainment value?  Fill me in.

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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 04:03:10 PM »
yes and peterson was talking stuff too,like when he made an ass of himself against norm duke,those 2 announcers are the worst,ruins the show,and some of the camera angles,gee whiz why don't they let people who know what is going on work the show,i turn the volume down and watch them go,no disrespect meant towards fagan,but IMHO he is a byproduct of equipment advances


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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 04:08:36 PM »
No one could find who he was mad at.  That was part of the problem at the time.  It looked like he had a generic argument with about 50 people.  What is the difference if Belmonte crinkles a bottle or PDW goes off on fans?  It looked like it was intentional from the tv side.  Either way it makes my job harder convincing people at school districts that bowling is a respectable sport.  I am sure some fans that were in the stands were not happy either.  If they were they would most likely go just to make Pete mad.  I remember one of my instructors beating me up about it's not a bowling alley!  it is a bowling CENTER and always presenting a professional image.  Guess not everyone got the memo.  Anyway it was a major distraction to the people Pete bowled against.  He may be the BAD BOY of Bowling but the tournament should has stopped that instantly.
 
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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 05:34:14 PM »
 If anyone was following twitter at the time,  People who do not follow the PBA regularly could not believe how much of a jerk Weber was.  If the PBA wants to expand their viewing audience, today did not help.

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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 06:35:50 PM »

 



witesoxwoz22 wrote on 2/26/2012 6:34 PM:If anyone was following twitter at the time, People who do not follow the PBA regularly could not believe how much of a jerk Weber was. If the PBA wants to expand their viewing audience, today did not help.

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 +1 My friend and I were saying the same thing.  He made an absolute ass of himself and the game.  First yelling at the fan but also after he tripped a four pin, the camera got up close and he yells "I can trip them too!" and does his crotch maneuver.  He has no class.  Belmo, Shafer, and Fagan all showed what bowling truly is.  Weber just put the game back another ten years in my eyes.


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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 06:42:36 PM »
I was not there, I watched on TV.  In Pete's defense, from his reaction it appeared to be the same person every time, moving during his approach.  After (I think) the second time he turned and said to someone off camera "If he does that again I want him removed."  He did it several times but apparently wasn't removed.  One time he (again, I think, it could have been someone else) even responded to Pete verbally.  This is the most prestigious tournament on the tour, and all the competitors were struggling with the condition.  Pete went further than he should have, but I understand.  --  JohnP



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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 04:26:17 AM »
The title of this topic is sure deceiving.  Why not call it "Another rant about Pete Weber"?



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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 07:40:54 AM »
Because it is not a rant against Pete.  It is a rant against the tournament officials that let it go on.  No matter who was the problem the officials should have stopped it.  Bowling is mostly mental and when someone, anyone goes off like that it is distracting and unfair.  I have been to several functions where Pete has been.  Pete is Pete.  Personally I like him.  I like Belmonte too but crinkling bottles no.
 
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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 07:48:45 AM »
Fixed.....Tiger Woods acts like an arse all the time....the PGA Tour sure is hurting.  Everyone hates Kyle Busch...NASCAR must be losing viewers...?....right...Bueller?
 
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Bill Thomas wrote on 2/28/2012 5:26 AM:
The title of this topic is sure deceiving.  Why not call it "Another rant about the PBA TV Shows"?




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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 08:02:06 AM »
To me, the obvious answer is that it wasn't really a big deal, it was all for the show.  Lets be honest, if Pete was really concerned about the audience moving or whatever, he could wear sunglasses with heavy tint on the sides so that you can't really see the audience out of the corner of his eye.  "Blinders" if you will.  Problem solved, before it starts.  PBA officials could have moved the audience member.  They could also fine/warn PDW for his actions.

 

In the end though, Pete probably benefited from the distraction away from the moment.  Furthermore, I'm guessing it wasn't nearly as distracting as he let on to be.  The PBA benefits from increased talk about the sport.  Fans feel "part of the action".  Everybody wins, that's why Pete, and the PBA aren't going to do anything different next time.
 



Smash49 wrote on 2/28/2012 8:40 AM:
Because it is not a rant against Pete.  It is a rant against the tournament officials that let it go on.  No matter who was the problem the officials should have stopped it.  Bowling is mostly mental and when someone, anyone goes off like that it is distracting and unfair.  I have been to several functions where Pete has been.  Pete is Pete.  Personally I like him.  I like Belmonte too but crinkling bottles no.

 

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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 08:30:48 AM »
I like the emotion PDW brings to the big game. I wish more bowlers would do it. I saw nothing wrong with him yelling out about the trip 4. Sure he was over the top about the fan moving, but that is PDW.

 

What's wrong with getting pumped up and showing some emotion on a string of strikes, making a tough spare, getting a lucky break....Oh no we can't have that....professional bowlers must be quiet, show class, have blank expressions on their faces while bowling, then go back to their chair and bury their head under their bowling towel until they are up again. 
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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2012, 01:11:49 PM »
Having been a serious bowler for many years, I realize to a small degree the immense effort required to improve, and still never reach the level of these pro players.
They lead a suitcase life a lot of the time, away from family and friends. Finding and maintaining a good shot is about the oil, which constantly changes with each shot. A tremendous amount of focus and talent is required on the extremely tough open pattern
Each bowler must find their own way to maintain this focus and to put spectators  up close and personal on the side I think does them an injustice.
These pros have more and more rules added every year and unless you live and breath the sport, there's a lot of easier ways to make a living.
All sports have their fair share of outspoken, passionate players that can rub some folks the wrong way. It doesn't change the fact these are truly hard earned talented players at the top of their game. I enjoyed the matches tremendously and that ladies and gentlemen, was what it was all about.
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2012, 02:48:01 PM »
What crap!  A guy or guys moved when Weber made a shot. Repeatedly.  Then they even started to make comments when he left a pin on a first ball.  Personally, I'd like to see more of it between the audience and the bowlers.  Let's face it, the only reason noise and movement is such a big deal is somewhere along the line, somebody thought that bowling on t.v. should be done in a church or mausoleum type setting.  Weber used it as motivation.  Bet he's moved on from it, why can't you whiners do the same?  
 
BTW, the scenario I described is covered ad-nauseum in the PBA forum.  Why did the OP feel it necessary to start another thread about it in this forum?



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Re: Bowling is mostly mental
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2012, 11:18:03 PM »
I could careless about the PBA forums.  Fact is many parts of the bowling world stress sportsmanship and good behavior.   Other sports handle this situation much better.  If an NBA or NFL player does something like this the leagues react instantly.  I agree that bowling needs some excitement but conflicts with fans is not good for the sport.  That would be if Pete actually had a conflict and was not talking to Harvey the 6ft invisible rabbit.  If that was the case Belmo needs more water bottles.  When your job is to promote the sport of bowling the officials lack of reaction and the players behavior have bad effects.  People new to bowling's opinion becomes things like bowling is not a real sport and it is classless.  The attitude of that is just Pete and Ain't it cool, well it's not cool.  To make matters worse when you put the BPAA, USBC and PBA stamp on it, it gives them a black eye. 
 
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