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Ray Finkel · « **on:** January 19, 2004, 03:56:38 PM »

The question is: Can a bowler clean his ball during a game? I have heard people say that he can't at any time clean the ball during the game. I have heard he can clean it at any time just as long as he doesn't change the balls surface, and I have heard he can clean it in between games only. What is the answer?

LuvThatWhiteDot · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2004, 08:56:13 AM »

Bowling Ball - Altering Surface

Rule 18. Altering the surface of a bowling ball by the use of abrasives while bowling in ABC/WIBC competition is prohibited. All bowling balls so altered must be removed from the competition (see Chapter VI, ABC/WIBC Equipment Specifications on Bowling Ball - Weight, Size, Markings and Holes for additional information).

NOTE: If it is shown the bowler had prior knowledge their actions were in violation of Rule 18, the game(s) in which the violation occurred is subject to forfeiture. In addition, the bowler is subject to dismissal from the league and suspension of membership.

Competition is defined as the remainder of the current game and remaining game(s) in the series being bowled.

The use of approved cleaning agents such as isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol and polishing machines is permissible.

www.bowlingrulebook.com

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tenpinspro · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2004, 09:57:05 AM »

My understanding from my local association is that any cleaner is okay to use, you just can't use any type of abrasive. Liquid sandpaper in a bottle is not allowed because it considered an abrasive. Making it clean or shiny is okay, just can't roughen it up to create more friction.
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cgilyeat · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2004, 11:34:24 AM »

The ABC has a list on the its web page that shows what cleaners are approved for use during competition, those that are approved for use before or after competition and those that are illegal at any time. Hopefully this link will work:

http://www.bowl.com/bowl/BowlDotCom/common/static.htmlpage=bowl_speccert_main

The LusterKing machine is legal for using during league competition.

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My understanding from my local association is that any cleaner is okay to use, you just can't use any type of abrasive. Liquid sandpaper in a bottle is not allowed because it considered an abrasive. Making it clean or shiny is okay, just can't roughen it up to create more friction.
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Edited on 1/20/2004 12:33 PM

mumzie · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2004, 11:35:41 AM »

Nope. Polishing a ball is also NOT ok once competition has started. That also is "altering" the surface.
Only cleaning.
To avoid any nasty scenes, I use a damp microfiber towel - with only water on it. If I get a bad belt mark, I show it to the other team captain, with my little ebonite scrub new in the pouch. That way there are NEVER any arguments.

mrfjmt · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2004, 12:11:19 PM »

A small correction on your link:
http://www.bowl.com/bowl/BowlDotCom/common/static.html?page=bowl_speccert_main

Here's an interesting tidbit from the list. Under acceptable during competition commercial cleaners is something called "Hook-It Plus (Liquid Sandpaper)", made by Neo Technologies (NeoTac). If Hook-It Plus is anything like the current Liquid Sandpaper available from NeoTac, I can't imagine how they got away with it without violating ABC Rule #18.

So, Rick, how's Alameda?

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The ABC has a list on the its web page that shows what cleaners are approved for use during competition, those that are approved for use before or after competition and those that are illegal at any time. Hopefully this link will work:

http://www.bowl.com/bowl/BowlDotCom/common/static.htmlpage=bowl_speccert_main

The LusterKing machine is legal for using during league competition.

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My understanding from my local association is that any cleaner is okay to use, you just can't use any type of abrasive. Liquid sandpaper in a bottle is not allowed because it considered an abrasive. Making it clean or shiny is okay, just can't roughen it up to create more friction.
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Edited on 1/20/2004 12:33 PM

tenpinspro · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2004, 04:50:58 AM »

Thanks guys for setting me straight, guess I'll be looking for ANOTHER rep to talk to. Interesting thing though, there are a FEW items I saw in there that are polishers and items that dull. Shouldn't that also be considered as altering surface?? Or has this issue just become another political one? Thanks again..

ps. Alameda's still nice...still expensive too.
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mrfjmt · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2004, 11:28:55 AM »

Rick --

My information comes directly from the electronic version of the ABC rule book (via the link provided.) Another twist to the story is that we called NeoTac to ask about Hook-It Plus, and they claim to have never offered a product by that name. They do have a couple of versions of Liquid Sandpaper, as I'm sure you know. Both are quite gritty and unquestionably alter the surface when used.

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