Author Topic: bowling season, split or whole (Read 11424 times)

jep4322 · « **on:** April 10, 2009, 04:05:00 AM »

I bowl in a 5 man 35 week winter league.
This year before the season started at the pre meeting the majoity of teams voted to do 17 weeks with 1 position at end of half, then 17 weeks end of season roll off between the two half winners. (If there were two) All other positions decided by overall 35 week total wins and losses.
There are 14 teams and @50$ per team prize diffrence per posistion team comes in.
When we about 6 weeks from end, a couple teams figure out they may have overall more wins but not win a half thus can do no better than 3rd and quit.
Is this normal for a split season? This is the first time we have tried it, just trying to make a long season more interesting.
Any suggestions on a better idea? What kind of format does yor leagues use or do you guys prefer?
Thanks

JohnP · « **Reply #1 on:** April 10, 2009, 08:16:14 PM »

16 team 3 man league, 34 weeks long. Bowl one complete round (15 weeks), then position night. Bowl second complete round, then position night. Winners of each half bowl each other for championship on the night of the payoff (no roll-off if same team wins both halves). Winner of the roll-off is first place team, all other positions are based on total number of points won for the 34 weeks. So it is possible for the loser of the play off match to finish well down the line for the whole season. -- JohnP

Atochabsh · « **Reply #2 on:** April 10, 2009, 08:26:55 PM »

A true Split Season league re sanctions with USBC. This allows bowlers to commit to only the 1/2 season. The end of the "1/2" should be totally closed out, champions named and all prize fund distributed. Then you start with resanctioning, filling out new application cards (even if you don't pay) and bowling another 1/2. There's no first 1/2 bowls second 1/2 stuff going on.

What I would call your league is a fall/winter league that is in halves. Some are in thirds, some in quarters. But its all under one league sanction.

Erin

scooter19530 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2009, 10:36:03 AM »

correct me if i'm wrong, but every league i've boewled in, if you quit, you sacrifice ALL your season's earnings. hence: all the money they put in should be split among the remaing teams, that seems like a huge chunk of change for the teams that stayed in and really stupid of the guys who acted like baby's and quit. even if we didn't win either half, stick it out. i never wanted to throw away money i've put in for 30 weeks or so, take what you get and maybe work on your game and try some differnt things you don't want to if you're fighting for a playoff position. take their money and say thanks, AMF.

Atochabsh · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2009, 11:59:01 AM »

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3. A player dismissed from the league:

a. Forfeits all franchise, prize and any other money for which they may have been eligible, unless the leagueâ€™s board determines otherwise.

That's dismissed/kicked out. And they can still get their money if the board votes to give it to them

quote:
114a. Procedure for Withdrawing

Members of a league may withdraw from a league during a season.
1. If a team or individual must withdraw, the following procedure is to be followed:
a. Two weeks notice must be given along with sufficient cause for resigning.
1) A team shall give notice to the league secretary.
2) A member resigning from a team shall give notice to the captain and the league secretary.
b. The resigning member(s) must pay league fees for two weeks if the bowler is not replaced within that period.
2. If proper notice and sufficient cause is not given, all franchise, prize and any other money for which the team or individual may have been eligible will be forfeited, unless the leagueâ€™s board determines otherwise. In addition, the member(s) shall be subject to suspension of USBC membership.

If you give proper notice and are paid up, "withdrawing" you get your prize money. And even if you don't give proper notice the league board can vote to give it to you.

But I don't understand the quitting just because they cannot win higher then 3rd. In most leagues (and you'd have to check your league rules) there is payout for games won no matter how few. Or payout for pins knocked down "pin money". Sure the most money will be earned by the top winning teams. That's the way any competition is.

Erin

shelley · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2009, 02:29:47 PM »

We have a split season here. 16 teams, two 15-week halves (I know it's the wrong number of weeks, but that's what we voted on). The way we pay out is as follows:

Take the whole prize fund, take out money for special awards (high team/individual game/series handicap/scratch, high average, most improved). Those are year-long awards.

The remaining prize fund, we split in half. Each half of the season pays out half the prize money. If you finish, say, first in the first half, you get the first half's first place prize money. If you then finish, say, 15th in the second half, you get the second half's fifteenth place prize money.

The winners of the two halves roll off at the end of the year for an additional bit of prize money.

We only distribute money at the end of the season.

I like the split season. We were doing poorly in the beginning, ended up I think in seventh. We then took off, finishing 47-13 for the second half, going 30-0 towards the end. A common problem with single whole seasons is that teams toward the bottom tend to stop showing up when they have no chance of getting any worthwhile money. At least if they bowled well the first half, they'll get something for their efforts.

SH

vadertyme03 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2009, 08:03:08 PM »

One of the most interesting formats I've heard of is from a classic league my dad used to bowl in. Don't remember amount of teams or weeks (probably 36 weeks). If I remember right they split the season into 3rd's. Winner of each 3rd moved on to championship round. They also kept tally of most wins of the teams who hadn't won a 3rd, this team was a "wild card" and also made it to championship round. Therefore have 4 teams at end of season vying for championship. Kept more teams involved constantly and kept it competitive since there was pretty big mony on the line in that league.
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jep4322 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2009, 09:27:01 AM »

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We have a split season here. 16 teams, two 15-week halves (I know it's the wrong number of weeks, but that's what we voted on). The way we pay out is as follows:

Take the whole prize fund, take out money for special awards (high team/individual game/series handicap/scratch, high average, most improved). Those are year-long awards.

The remaining prize fund, we split in half. Each half of the season pays out half the prize money. If you finish, say, first in the first half, you get the first half's first place prize money. If you then finish, say, 15th in the second half, you get the second half's fifteenth place prize money.

The winners of the two halves roll off at the end of the year for an additional bit of prize money.

We only distribute money at the end of the season.

I like the split season. We were doing poorly in the beginning, ended up I think in seventh. We then took off, finishing 47-13 for the second half, going 30-0 towards the end. A common problem with single whole seasons is that teams toward the bottom tend to stop showing up when they have no chance of getting any worthwhile money. At least if they bowled well the first half, they'll get something for their efforts.

SH

Thats why we thought we would try the split this year to keep intrest going. I guess just write it off to poor sportsmanship.
jep4322

los2003 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2009, 10:03:46 AM »

our friday night season is split into two halves. first half winner bowls second half winner to crown league champion. but which ever team loses can still be passed for second because of total wins. we finished fifth in the first half. and won the second half plus the little rolloff.

jep4322 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2009, 04:48:56 PM »

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our friday night season is split into two halves. first half winner bowls second half winner to crown league champion. but which ever team loses can still be passed for second because of total wins. we finished fifth in the first half. and won the second half plus the little rolloff.

That sounds like a good deal to me, that way teams dont sandbag after winning first half or lay back in first half. Thanks
jep4322

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