Post by: echidapus on January 22, 2009, 05:47:45 AM
How many bowlers out there are also golfers?
What is your bowling handicap vs. your golfers handicap? Does anyone have a 0 for both?
What would be equivalent to a 300 game in golf? Hole in 1? That case how many who have both?
I was going to take up golf last summer, but a concussion kept me out.
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High game 300
High series 804
High triplicate 774
High average 221
best game. when I was 6 I bowled a 158
Post by: Pinbuster on January 22, 2009, 01:53:24 PM
Golf 8 handicap - Bowling Scratch
A round of golf on a championship course of 7000 yards of 64 would probably be like a 300 game. But a lot depends on the course.
I never have had a hole in one. Nor have I shot under par for 18 holes.
Post by: blacknois on January 22, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
Post by: leftyinsnellville on January 22, 2009, 02:21:19 PM
I'd say a 59 on a championship course would be the equivalent of a 900 series on a PBA pattern.
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Post by: Mr Ed Onkey on January 22, 2009, 02:45:13 PM
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Post by: ringing 10 on January 22, 2009, 03:05:50 PM
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 22, 2009, 03:12:37 PM
Also as a guy who has been fortunate enough to have a bunch of scores in the 60s and a bunch in the sub 30s for 9......a 64 in golf is very much more rare than 300s in bowling. I would liken 64s in golf to being very similar to 800s in bowling.
REgards,
Luckylefty
PS ummmmm 300s in bowling....a lot like shooting 34 for 9 holes on any par 36 course.......
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Post by: idriveahonda on January 22, 2009, 09:09:33 PM
I play college golf, and hold a +4 handicap (which would be like a 240 average bowler).
Saying a score of -8 would be equivalent to 300 is absurd...much more difficult to shoot a score as low as that on a good golf course. I hold the co-record for a 7240 yd course with a (-9) 63, and that was shooting 31-32 for the round. I would say a hole-in-one is a good comparison, as many underserving people make holes-in-one, likewise with a 300 in bowling.
I have had two double eagles (a score of 2 on a par 5) and I would consider that harder than a 300 without a doubt.
Oh, and my handicap in bowling is a 19 (197 average).
And if anyone needs clubs, message me, as I have sooooo many clubs from tournaments and company representatives.
Post by: KR300 on January 22, 2009, 09:18:40 PM
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If you blame the lane conditions for your bad scores, then you had better thank them for your good ones!!
Post by: Aloarjr810 on January 22, 2009, 09:27:34 PM
I believe golf and bowling went together because both involved a lot of leg work.
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Post by: Kid Jete on January 22, 2009, 09:32:25 PM
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 24, 2009, 07:17:51 AM
REgards,
Luckylefty
a hole in one and a 300 game have little relation Maybe hitting 12 drives in a row in the fairway might be the best analogy....
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Post by: idriveahonda on January 24, 2009, 09:33:33 AM
Difficult, but nothing that would keep a 2-handicap from shooting under 80.
Q-school will KILL a state amateur champion...seriously. Completely different ballgame out there. I qualified for the Nationwide Tour Virginia Beach Open in 06...and their games are on a different level than even the best college teams (and thus state amateur champs
). Q-school and any professional tour of golf, is nearly IMPOSSIBLE for those of us who have actually shot rediculously low scores, and have course records.I would never think of going to Q-school. I might play some more Monday qualifiers for Nationwide events...but that's about it lol.
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66 at Firestone south is incredible and similar performance to 800 series on a sport pattern. You have to be a state amateur champion level player at the minimum! Please let us know when you try for the golf Qualifying school.
REgards,
Luckylefty
a hole in one and a 300 game have little relation Maybe hitting 12 drives in a row in the fairway might be the best analogy....
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Post by: Kid Jete on January 24, 2009, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: bhsbigcountry on January 24, 2009, 09:48:04 PM
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Post by: LuckyLefty on January 26, 2009, 01:08:21 PM
If it so easy why do I see so many players over par during tournaments.
PS My home couse was a PGA tour monday qualifying site and a good friend of mine I could beat went to Merion right after a long ago US open and shot 71...."easy" he said! Of coure they had cut the rough in his case.
As far as State Amateur champs. I had one that played behind me in high school. He still holds the state stroke play record.
Ahead of me was a player he won the State Juniors championship. Two of his victims on the way to the title were a guy named Jeff Sluman and another guy named Joey Sindelar. I guess guys who are not quite good enough to win the state championship can somehow squeek by in the pros!!
REgards,
LUckylefty
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Post by: idriveahonda on January 26, 2009, 08:08:54 PM
And those examples aren't so good, they are a little older now, and the competition back then was nowhere near as fierce as it is now. I play with kids who hold course records, who play in the Eastern Amateur and win...etc...who will NEVER make professional golf.
It's just too damn hard nowadays...and too expensive.
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Well...my comments on Firestone etc....
If it so easy why do I see so many players over par during tournaments.
PS My home couse was a PGA tour monday qualifying site and a good friend of mine I could beat went to Merion right after a long ago US open and shot 71...."easy" he said! Of coure they had cut the rough in his case.
As far as State Amateur champs. I had one that played behind me in high school. He still holds the state stroke play record.
Ahead of me was a player he won the State Juniors championship. Two of his victims on the way to the title were a guy named Jeff Sluman and another guy named Joey Sindelar. I guess guys who are not quite good enough to win the state championship can somehow squeek by in the pros!!
REgards,
LUckylefty
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Post by: Kid Jete on January 26, 2009, 08:31:19 PM
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Well...my comments on Firestone etc....
If it so easy why do I see so many players over par during tournaments.
PS My home couse was a PGA tour monday qualifying site and a good friend of mine I could beat went to Merion right after a long ago US open and shot 71...."easy" he said! Of coure they had cut the rough in his case.
As far as State Amateur champs. I had one that played behind me in high school. He still holds the state stroke play record.
Ahead of me was a player he won the State Juniors championship. Two of his victims on the way to the title were a guy named Jeff Sluman and another guy named Joey Sindelar. I guess guys who are not quite good enough to win the state championship can somehow squeek by in the pros!!
REgards,
LUckylefty
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All the guys on tour were top state and national amatuer players, if that's what you're getting at. We're just saying most of these "top" players will never sniff the big leagues, it's THAT tough. And as far as FSCC being easy... I would say "simple" rather than easy. What makes it possible to score there are the greens. They are some of the best in the country and very true to read. There aren't a lot of holes that you need to just hit it in the middle of the green and make par. The course gets tough when they let the rough grow out and put the tees at the tips. It's fairly long compared to some other courses the tour sees. The best player I have ever played with around here is Ben Curtis, a state amatuer champ as you have discussed. Won the British then came back home and breaks his own course record at Windmill Lakes, which is no slouch course in itself. Anyway I'm babbling again lol...
Post by: nd300 on January 26, 2009, 08:44:44 PM
Give a 20 handicapper a $2,000 set of clubs and 5 lessons and he will hit it farther,but in what direction????
IF the lessons are good ones AND he/she practices what they're told AND IF the clubs are fitted by a certified club fitter,you should EASILY be able to knock off 5 strokes minimum----if not 7-8 in a summer.My first set of custom fit irons and lots of practice and playing took me from a 15 handicap to a 6 IN ONE SUMMER,including a personal low of 72 on a course used by the Futures Tour(LPGA developmental tour)
Personally,
I'm a 7.2 handicap and have averaged over 200 for the past eleven years in at least two leagues per year with at least 66 games per league(and usually closer to 90).
P.S. No holes in one,but several 300 games.
Golf is INFINITELY harder.Be off by 1-2 boards in bowling and you can still strike or spare.Be off by 1/2 degree closed or open on a shot in golf and you'll miss your target by a comparative mile.
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JTTDB---Just Throw The Damn Ball
Don't "think"---that ball isn't in your bag yet..........