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 Been bowling for quite a while now (since the late 70's/early 80's), and I've seen bowling go through all the changes. From the time rubber balls and wooden lanes were still popular, to the modern days of reactive resin and synthetic lanes.

 "Back in the day", bowling balls used to last practically forever. Just clean it once in a while, and you were set for decades of fun.

 My, how things change, which brings me to my question.

 I used to buy LOTS of new balls. It wasn't unusual for me to have several of the same balls, with differing surfaces and drillings. At one point, I carried about 10-15 different urethane Hammers to tournaments with me.

 But, I've gotten older, and have slowed WAY down. I don't really bowl many/any tournaments anymore, and my work schedule only allows for one league a week, so my question is, "How long can I realistically expect a good, modern ball to last?

 The stuff I'm using now is from 2007/2008. I clean them like clockwork every time I bowl, and they seem to be doing just fine. Is this really possible, or am I just kidding myself?

 Also, out of curiosity, how long is the shelf-life of a NIB reactive ball? I've got one in the closet from 1993..................
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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2015, 11:05:59 AM »
I recently bowled with some old friends and neither of them had a ball newer than 2008, but the balls they mainly used were from late 90's, early 00's.  This is on older wood lanes, so needing hook in a box certainly isn't necessary.  Both were effective and averaged about as much as they thought they should. 

I told one of the guys that if he had a couple newer balls, bowled on wide open house shots, and believed it possible, that he would average 25-30 pins more than he was.  A new house opens in his hometown soon, so we'll see.

In a roundabout way, I'm trying to say that you have to ask yourself what you want/expect out of your bowling game now.  If you are bowling once a week with a few tournaments you aren't expecting to win, then your equipment is likely the best matchup since you can predict their reactions.  Newer equipment has potential for more hook and hitting power, but you may not like the reaction shape as they will likely be sharper than your current stuff.  If your situation changes, then you will need newer equipment to keep pace with the leaders.

I've asked a few pro shop guys about older balls sitting and they all agreed that they should still be good provided the core doesn't settle.  We've all seen balls crack.

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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2015, 12:16:14 PM »
Unless you get a "bad" ball - one that loses reaction quickly and doesn't respond well to oil removal, modern balls should still last 5+ seasons. Super aggressive balls might have to eventually be moved down a slot in your arsenal, but unless you're highly competitive and bowling on very demanding conditions, the drop off in performance is really not that big. I think too many people blame bad performances or changing lane conditions on under performing balls.

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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 12:30:20 PM »
It has now been several years since I bowled a league or even darkened the doors of a center for a few games with an office party...but...that being said, I would have no qualms about continuing to use older equipment.  Sure the shape may not be one that crosses a ton of boards, but the older stuff will still work. 

The last office party we had, I took in a tote with a Sonic X and a Pearl Assault along with a second tote that had a Gold Grenade (polished urethane) and an old Roto RH (the Roto version of the Yellow Dot bleeder).  I had looks to the pocket with all of them.

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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 12:35:59 PM »
Shot 300 to win a tourney last summer with my original Blue Midnight Quantum. The original 3 (Forest Green, Midnight Blue, and Scarlet) were introduced in 1994. Not too bad for a ball 20 years old.

I also regularly use Robo Rules from the old Track regime that came out in 2004. Still hit great and works on everything I have seen. I bowled on the Tokyo sport pattern last week and needed my 3rd strongest Robo to tackle the pattern. Shot over 700 with it.

My only new ball is an Arctic Sniper from Motiv. The Robos are my next newest stuff, a decade old now.

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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 01:18:47 PM »
I bought a Columbia Power Surge when it was issued in 1999 and used it for nearly 10 years. I cleaned the ball at the lanes after nearly every series and resurfaced the ball once. The Surge's reaction was still pretty good after many, many games. With that neon purple coverstock, it also looked great turning the corner. I retired the Surge mainly because it was 16 lbs., and I was moving to 15 lbs. But it was one helluva ball in its prime.
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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2015, 01:58:23 PM »
I have a Columbia black U-dot (1987) that I use as my primary spare ball. I can use it as a second or third piece in the bag on a THS or a piece late in a block on a torn up tournament shot.

Also, I have a Fab Blue Hammer and a Fab Burgundy Hammer (both purchased in 1994) that are my second and third choice, respectively, for a spare ball. I have used the Blue Hammer on the WTBA Athens pattern and PBA Cheetah pattern.

I have one other piece, a Track Sensor II (pearl reactive purchased in 1995), that I've used on a THS during pot games. Back in the day on wood lanes, that ball hit HARD. I could use it on the fresh and it haf more down lane motion than my Blue Hammer.
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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 02:22:39 PM »
It really depends on what you are looking for in the ball.  Most disappointing balls are those that guys buy as hook monster with a lot of surface.  They lose reaction quickly and I have always found it difficult to maintain or return such balls to box condition.  This was an issue even back in the urethane era where strong balls often came at 500 grit box condition. Those urethanes also soaked up oil, and the oil penetration made it difficult to return those balls to their performance out of the box   

Balls that are bought primarily for house conditions can last a long time if you aren't looking for a super aggressive surface, which is really not necessary anyway on house shots. 


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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2015, 08:26:33 PM »
 Thanks for all the replies guys.

 Like I said, I've become the old guy that bowls one league, in one house, on a reasonably easy THS. As long as you've got a decent release, and are reasonably accurate, you're going to hit the pocket a lot.

 I just want something that will read the oil pattern, and still finish. Like I said, my 7/8 year old stuff is still passing the "eye" test, but sometimes the carry seems "off". Just figured most of that was me and not being nearly as sharp as I used to be, and not that the equipment was "worn out".

 There is some cool looking stuff out there right now, maybe I should just break down and get something newer for next season, eh?
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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2015, 10:09:43 PM »
For some reason I find my older stuff on a house shot works the best.

I have a Brunswick Diamond Back I polished a few years ago I shot 300, 3rd week of the season with it this year. I also have a Lane 1 Enriched Uranium. Mid season I brought that back out and had six week straight weeks nothing under 700 with a 795 and 96 clean in a row with an ave of 248 during that time. When I buy new stuff it is for my Sport league and tournaments. I clean them after each use and resurface after 30-50 games and try and extract the oil also.  So I keep going back to my old stuff when ever I get in a slump and for some reason it gets me out of it.

I think both ball are between 8-10 years old & the lane 1 has over 500 games on it

Just my .02

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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2015, 11:42:14 PM »
For some reason I find my older stuff on a house shot works the best.

I have a Brunswick Diamond Back I polished a few years ago I shot 300, 3rd week of the season with it this year. I also have a Lane 1 Enriched Uranium. Mid season I brought that back out and had six week straight weeks nothing under 700 with a 795 and 96 clean in a row with an ave of 248 during that time. When I buy new stuff it is for my Sport league and tournaments. I clean them after each use and resurface after 30-50 games and try and extract the oil also.  So I keep going back to my old stuff when ever I get in a slump and for some reason it gets me out of it.

I think both ball are between 8-10 years old & the lane 1 has over 500 games on it

Just my .02

Older balls aren't so aggressive off the friction, which helps a lot.
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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2015, 10:34:19 AM »
One of my most favorite balls ever is my Clutch Pearl, which is 6 years old? Love it so much I am sitting on a nib one just in case! Still works just fine.

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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2015, 11:13:59 AM »
have a 900 Global Break pearl thats over 8 years old and still shooting 300s & 800 sets with it, as long as you take care of your equipment and keep them clean I dont see why they wouldnt last 10 plus years if not more.   
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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2015, 02:05:36 PM »
I bowl with two Dynothane Vendettas (original and particle). Bought them in 2004/2005 and some of the most reliable and snappy equipment I have.

I maintain them religiously with our products to protect them from ball death. The next few sandings the originals serial will be removed so I need to get that engraved back into the coverstock.

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Re: Bowling with older stuff (Or, how long does good stuff last?)
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2015, 08:05:30 PM »
 The balls in question are an AMF Code, an AMF Hype reactive, and a Bwick Fury. They've been maintained really well, and like I said, they still pass the "looks great going down the lane" test.

 With all the talk seeming to focus on the new conditioners killing the covers on modern balls, it's good to hear I'm not the only guy throwing rocks from 7/8 years ago and getting decent results.
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