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Grayson

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brand new bowling center... some questions
« on: June 04, 2008, 08:25:53 AM »
Hi!

a few month ago a new center has opened here in our city. They take a lot of advice from the bowlers and are willing to fullfill the needs of the more serious bowlers as well as the open bowlers... which are their main income. Hand down.

Some question:

the approaches are so tacky I almost always fall down... it is real hard.
But then they try to polish and clean it... and it almost has no effect. The staff really do their best!
Right now I am using powder to give me at least a bit of a slide.... throws me totally of my timing.

Any idea to make a approach real good for sliding?
(synthetics)

then the lanes... well those are good. the oil pattern is nice but breaks down real fast. Which is not the problem! I like the challenge.

But the backends are so flying.
Is this because the lanes ae brand new? (AMF-Qubica)
or is it just the material?
Will they "break" in or always be so tacky and flying?

The trick on those lanes is to make a very fast and brave decision the right time... first two games... HIGH scores... then the lanes break down within one game so badly... (or at least it seems to me) that you have to move quick and keep moving constantly and adjust.

My decision is to move deeper or switch ball whereas the later was better most times.. I took my weaker pearl and it hooks of the dry like crazy.

So.

Will those lanes... or better to say break in? Or will it stay the same? or is it just a matter of oil pattern?
How can one make an approach better that is so darn tacky?
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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 04:41:13 PM »
my center has just recently installed brand new synthetic lanes and we have experianced the same problem. the lanes will "settle down" over time. i would avoid using any balls that have a "ton" of backend to them at least for now. i am currently using a pretty moderatly drilled ball that has more of an arc type reaction and i have it sanded down to about 1500 grit no polish. i have several scores over 750 and several 289 games with this ball. as far as not being able to slide, i cant help you there. it is also said that synthetic approaches are very weather sensitive. they can get very tacky when there is alot of moisture in the air.
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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 04:50:28 PM »
Using powder is a no-no in many houses. Someone else may slip and fall and it would be your fault. Better get some shoes with interchangeable soles and use the #8 or #10 or whatever slides the most.

When our local house put in synthetic lanes they kept the wooden approaches, thank goodness.

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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 07:38:07 PM »
do not put apply anything to your slide shoe----except using a brass brush made for cleaning your slide sole. look into a slide sock and the "slickest" set of heeels and soles for your shoes.

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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 07:46:23 PM »
Yes, my local center thankfully took the same approach and kept wooden approaches when they installed synthetic lanes. There is another center in my area that uses synthetic approaches, but they arent as bad as I usually find synthetic approaches to be.

One thing I do notice about myself is that I adjust to it very easily. One or 2 shots of getting stuck and my body seems to adjust automatically, without throwing my timing off. Its wierd, but I don't complain lol.

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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 08:09:43 PM »
Most of the top notch suggestions have already been voiced here but the #1 most important is to get good shos with interchangeable heels and soles.

Dexter's #10 sole is grey felt and is ALMOST impossible to stick with. The same goes for the ABS #3 sole...VERY slick. As for the heels, if you get the ABS adjustable heel you can change the front edge of the heel to adjust your braking. I have a couple of these in stock...which you need is dependent on your shoe size.

EZ Slide is always an option but be sure you apply it to your shoe and not the carpet or approach and be sure to blot off any excess before you step up on the approach.

One thing that has not been mentioned yet is the effects of static electricity on synthetic approaches. Plastic seats, carpeting and your own clothing will build up static in your body and can contribute to poor sliding. After all synthetics are nothing more than a plastic derivative and we all know how bad plastic can build up static. Combine this with the carpeting, seats and your clothing and you get a real possibility. Bowlers who have more of a shuffle approach are more affected than walkers in this case.

The approaches will wear in as they get older and will start to slide better and better. The same goes for the lanes.

The lanes will break in and the oil breakdown will subside.

Best of luck and keep us posted!
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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 08:17:58 PM »
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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 09:48:57 PM »
There is a local house here that installed synthetic approaches and I won't go near that house anytime the weather gets warmer. Seems that the humidity makes the approaches worse. The a/c doesn't help it either.

I heard of a house that has synthetic approaches that have "bumps" raised into the surface at the slide area. I never bowled on them but I heard that it's very hard to stick on them.

Give me wood approaches and I'm happy.
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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2008, 10:21:55 PM »
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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2008, 10:22:22 PM »
Make sure they keep the cooling systems on during the night. One time our center had a power surge at night and they had to open the center late because the approaches were so tacky from the heat over night.
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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2008, 10:29:57 PM »
As to these approaches, some of the newer synthetic approaches are "textured" or "sanded" to take some of the tackiness away.

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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 12:57:48 AM »
Thanks folks for all the info and suggestions.
Sadly a new pair of shoes is not possible right now.

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As to these approaches, some of the newer synthetic approaches are "textured" or "sanded" to take some of the tackiness away.


they seem to be dull compared to other older ones I know.
I hope they break in.
In another city where my pal is living I also went into the problem of a sticky approach but there it was simply dirt ... bah...

ok ... offtopic... back to topic:

I will get me such a shoeslide/sliding sock... thingy.
Seems to be the best solution right now.
Powder is a problem sure.... the stuff is strictly forbidden during any league play and in winter the league will go to that house as already two teams have made it their homeground.
So I have to find a solution or sit on the bench during those league days

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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 01:25:54 AM »
at the house i bowl at when they start getting tackey they just run the floor buffer over it and then its great sometime 2 great

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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2008, 03:18:03 AM »
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You can also use any simple and wide old sock, either for the shoe tip or the whole shoe.

Any substance to improve the slide is basically illegal (in tournament), even in Germany. Besides, since it can be hazardous for other players, I'd rather go with a sock.

The problem of flying back end and quickly changing lanes can setm from a low viscosity lane conditioner, that evaporates quickly and is sicked up easily by porous balls. High humidity can also have dramatic effects on lane grip.
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Re: brand new bowling center... some questions
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2008, 05:24:44 AM »
an old sock is an idea... though it looks funny... which on the other hand fits my style

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bowlersslidesock.com X 3, 'nuff said.  --  JohnP


You can also use any simple and wide old sock, either for the shoe tip or the whole shoe.

Any substance to improve the slide is basically illegal (in tournament), even in Germany. Besides, since it can be hazardous for other players, I'd rather go with a sock.

The problem of flying back end and quickly changing lanes can setm from a low viscosity lane conditioner, that evaporates quickly and is sicked up easily by porous balls. High humidity can also have dramatic effects on lane grip.
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