Author Topic: Breaking wrist. (Read 1828 times)

dev · « **on:** April 15, 2005, 01:56:53 AM »

I bet you've heard of something called "breaking wrist" or uncupping the cupped wrist for more revolutions on your ball.

I'm hoping that someone could give me links with regard to this articles. It's useful in my next step of bowling.

Thanks in advance.

*If possible a vid or some pictures might be good.

Mr Lefty · « **Reply #1 on:** April 15, 2005, 10:02:31 AM »

my friend plays like this and hes a cranker....a pro that sort of does this is wes malott...basically the whole point of it is to release the thumb to get maximum lift with your fingertips...kinda like hooking the ball thumbless to get max revs....
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dev · « **Reply #2 on:** April 15, 2005, 10:09:46 AM »

I've tried it a few times but my timing isn't right. either the ball is dropping, if not lofting it off 20 feets

In this case, I need to have lots of wrist strength?

TheBowlingKid25 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 15, 2005, 10:11:52 AM »

you have to understand how it is done before you can do it correctly. Crankers that seem so effortless do it like this. They cup their wrist a lot, then right at release, they uncup so they come around like half of the ball instead of, say, a quarter of it. They "unwind" their wrist basically. If it doesn't come naturally though, its hard to learn. Trust me. Thats why I use the mightiest of all powers, hit up.

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TheBowlingKid25 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 15, 2005, 10:17:47 AM »

watch a video of nick smith. (brunsnick) he uses this technique.
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Nothing more to be said.
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Mr Lefty · « **Reply #5 on:** April 15, 2005, 10:23:08 AM »

you have to understand that this whole wrist action takes like .3 seconds to execute...he showed me and the motion is similar to just letting your hand fall...the momentum going down will cause you to break your wrist but will "recoil" (<-- only term i could think of right now)back up it takes a lot of practice...he also very particular about the fit of the ball to avoid anything messing up your release...it takes a lot of practice but once you mastered it imagine getting the same amount of revs as a guy bowling thumbless...*shudders*
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Mr Lefty · « **Reply #6 on:** April 15, 2005, 10:30:19 AM »

revs or no revs...the only thing that matters in this sport is what scores the display monitor puts at the end of each game..
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Ragnar · « **Reply #7 on:** April 15, 2005, 11:07:24 AM »

I've tried this in the past but just couldn't get it. I'm now trying a slightly different way of looking at it that seems to be useful, at least for me. What I'm working on, instead of breaking the wrist or cupping and uncupping is pushing the heel of my hand forward as the ball hits the flat spot at the bottom of my swing. This forces my fingers down and back and allows the ball to roll of my hand. When I do it right I seem to have more revs and a much smoother release than I had with my older/normal "grab the bejesus out of it at the bottom" release.
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dev · « **Reply #8 on:** April 15, 2005, 11:43:05 AM »

Okayyy..

lots of replies, i know this does take some time to learn. I'm a stroker with fast speed, around 19 mph to 20. and often my ball just skid thru. i've no other choice, i've tried learning how to slow down, but the ball no longer have any energy in it. bleahs.

Now the only choice to maybe put some revs in me, turning myself into a tweener

it might not only help me, might make me look betta too ?

janderson · « **Reply #9 on:** April 15, 2005, 08:59:44 PM »

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watch a video of nick smith. (brunsnick) he uses this technique.

Chris Barnes is another good example.

dev - John Jowdy describes the release in his book "Bowling Execution". There is also a whole bunch of other good stuff in there.

Yes, strength is a factor, but timing is even more important with this type of release. Most people who try it uncup far too early and/or hold onto the ball too long. When executed properly, it almost feels like you're pushing the ball down into the lane.

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th3jumpoff · « **Reply #10 on:** April 15, 2005, 09:03:37 PM »

I am almost 100 percent postive that Robert Smith does this as well

a_ak57 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 15, 2005, 09:36:01 PM »

Yes, what others have described it right. It's almost like your pushing the ball away. I can do it, though I haven't ever used it much. When I do, my rpm rate is around what I do with no thumb. It's all about technique, and when to release. If you've seen some of nick's posts, he's said that he knows he's releasing right when he doesn't even feel what he's doing, since he's not using any extra un-needed force just unleashing pure energy at the right split second.
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CoachJim · « **Reply #12 on:** April 15, 2005, 09:52:59 PM »

Check out Ron Clifton's article on the release
http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip20.htm.

There are many ways of putting revs on the ball here is a list of techniques used from least to most:

1. flat with pinkie extended (away from ring finger) and index finger pulled in toward the middle finger = straight up the back release with little or no side rotation.

2. Flat with pinkie and index finger extended = stable hand with little side rotation (less than 20 degrees).

3. Pinkie pulled in tight with index half extended = between 20 and 40 degrees of rotation.

4. Pinkie pulled in tight with index fully extended = between 40 and 75 degrees of rotation depending on flexibility.

5. Pinkie tucked in with index fully extended = Max rotation and revs.

6. Wrist cupped with all of the above finger positions to trigger this release I agree with Rags, about pushing your palm through the flat spot in the release to keep from grabbing on it, this also keeps your fingers below the midline of the ball and prevents an early release. Most of the people I have seen that couldn't do this release either have a weak wrist or try to hook the ball so much that they uncoil their wrist too early.

7. bent elbow into the release. This is dangerous and causes tendentious, but many pros like Tommy Jones and Robert Smith use this type of release with much success.

8. Cocking the wrist toward the sliding foot and uncocking it at the release puts added siderotation plus added revs.

9. Combining 5,6,7 and 8 = Robert Smith.

Edited on 4/15/2005 9:49 PM

CoachJim · « **Reply #13 on:** April 16, 2005, 07:02:34 AM »

Just be aware that you will be putting maximum stress on your elbow when it snaps straight at the release point. I have found it is better to use a gravity driven armswing when using this type of release to keep from forcing the ball to the release point and stressing your elbow. Watch Tommy Jones or PDW.

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