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LuckyLefty

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Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« on: November 11, 2004, 08:30:06 PM »
Went to the lanes yesterday part of a chain that has a few centers around.

The nearby center where I bowl has Brunswick anvilanes.  Now at this previous piece o crap wood lane center(I like wood lanes just these were terrible).  They are installing Brunswick Anvilanes too!

Same distinctive hash markings on the lanes.  However I went up and looked at some of the lanes getting ready to be layed tomorrow.  They appeared sligltly Browner or tanner in color compared to the ones at the previous Brunswick Anvilane installation.  In addition these looked softer or slower.  More like AMF synthetics in how fast the ball shoots off down the lanes (slower).

Already saw some good scores on the left where NOBODY on the left has hit 200 in a couple of years.  Shot looks very playable and a little softer surface than other more yellow looking anvilanes I've seen before.

Come in different hardnesses???  Anyone know?

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Luckylefty
OH crap I don't know if this is where lefties will go to establish average any more.  Maybe rock hard center above!
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2004, 05:40:34 AM »
LL--Not sure about the new variation of Anvilane.  Do these have the large stripes down about 40 some feet?  

There have been two kinds of Anvilane not sure if this the third kind Brunswick's come out with...the first two types were harder than AMF HPL around 60 to HPL's 50 more like wood.  

Either way it's better than Guardian any day.

Scott

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2004, 09:59:20 AM »
Yep they have the two sets of hash marks down near 40 feet.

Just like the others in the area I talked about.

However they approaches look different.  All of it looks browner rather than more yellow(like other center).

They appear to almost act like AMF lanes as far as speed.

I went to Brunswicks site and they have discussion about a new textured tape on the synthetic approaches that I thought these were but the lanes seemed different too!

Actually they looked great.

I could see me bowling in both centers.  One to toughen myself(rock hard) one to get some honor scores!

Same oiling pattern was throughout the house which was still 1/3 wood(to be fully converted in a week or two).

The wood shot still looked terrible but much better on right.  Left however looked happy on synthetics and better on right than on wood.

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Luckylefty
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2004, 04:22:34 PM »
I am not aware there are different ones but you never know.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2004, 08:10:50 PM »
Lane experts.  New slower Brunswick surface?

I'm sure these approaches are different than previous synthetics I've seen.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2004, 02:28:42 AM »
Well.... went and threw on the new surface.

Actually just as slow as AMF HPL.  I really liked it.

I have not called Brunswick to ask if they have softened their synthetics but I will tell you.  There were not many people there and it was noticeable.  When I lofted the ball the lane actually had a softer sound and almost seemed to have a little give when the ball landed versus this small chains other nearby center with anvilane pro lanes(with hash marks).

Anyone know?  GREAT shot.  If they just leave a touch for us lefties this center will go from the worst top hat shots(there wood shot still pitiful to all replaced next week and I love to bowl on wood) in america to one of the best!

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Luckylefty
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PS is there a difference in what one lays the synthetic lane surface on that could account for this difference!
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2004, 07:12:58 AM »
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When I lofted the ball the lane actually had a softer sound and almost seemed to have a little give when the ball landed  


I'm subbing in a new Brunswick synthetic house this year.  I have also noticed what you mentioned above.  Seems like there is a cushioning mechanism under the lane bed.  Especially noticable with guys that really loft the ball.  The entire lane surface seems to move as much as an inch when the ball lands.  Verys strange sight when you are used to wood on top of concrete.
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2004, 07:44:57 AM »
Yaeh the older synthetic is like a rock.  Much harder than wood!

I think I'll email Brunswick and see what they say.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2004, 11:29:55 AM »
OK, dumb question about synthetic lanes:

Is the lane hardness the same all the way down the lane?

I've always thought that wood lanes were harder in the heads and the pit but that a softer wood was used in the midlane to help promote roll. Hence the splices about 20 feet down or so.

Do synthetics have anything like this or is it just one sheet, one hardness all the way down? If so, is the actual hardness level more in line with the wood midlane?
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2004, 12:10:57 PM »
Chances are if the surface has been installed in the past year or so, it is a newer version of the Brunswick Pro-Anvilane, now called Brunswick ProLane. The approaches are textured to "simulate" the play of wood approaches. There may be some coloration differences between the two "models", but they are pretty much the same, except for some superficial differences seen on the lane.

The only difference with the new Prolane is that the markings are lighter, but still easily seen when bowling. With the old Pro-Anvilane, the markings downlane and the lines that go up and down the lane every five boards are a little darker. It looks like "B" wanted to make the look more natural with ProLane, as I felt that Pro-Anvil had so many lines on the lane, that it really didn't look like an old school bowling lane anymore.

So yeah. I could be wrong, but this is what I see.
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2004, 05:35:37 PM »
Well this is some website!

Thousands of bowlers from all over the world!  Nobody knows anything.

Well I have a theory.  Now this other guy has a theory.  Not one bit of knowledge with all these lanemen and proprietors and ball company reps and tour players.  NOTHIN!

So I go to Hugh Miller's site today and in his notes from the tour he talks about this weeks St Louis tourney!  Almost first thing he says is "We are bowling on Brunswick's new Anvilane which has more friction than the Anvilanes fo a couple of years ago."

Like anyone knew!  Not the 30,000 guys who visit this site!
And here it was right under our noses on TV this weekend.  I thought the shot looked familiar!!!

Man this might be the best surface in bowling!  I love the one put into what was a while back my most hated local center!

In addition as Jeremy says!

They do have different approaches.  Approaches that have a touch more oh for the lack of a better word surface.  A slightly more wood grainy instead of shiny and plasticy looking sheen.  I anticipate when humid they will not get as sticky.

Again I say, 50000 bowlers with their eyes closed to a very significant change in our game.  

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS note how Walter Ray's ball was burning up in heads the other day!!!
That's the friction I'm talkin about!  I'm surprised he didn't go to his loft shot.  That sure worked on the left!
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2004, 05:28:08 PM »
I AM the only person interested in this!

Regards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2004, 07:59:02 PM »
Hey Lucky Lefty I will ask Mo when he stops by our lanes next week. Or I if I talk to him earlier I will let you know


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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2004, 05:25:33 AM »
Thanks!!  It looks like a great surface.  Approaches like wood almost in feel and I have a feeling the new texture will take out terrible sticking problems when humid in center.

Also it sort of reminds one of almost like wood the new surface as far as roll of the ball and friction.

I likey so far.  And I hate the rock hard brunswick synthetics of yesteryear!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Brunswick Anvilane...Varying hardness?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2004, 10:49:25 AM »
Not to be a smart alec, but does it really matter?  It's always nice to know things, but your job as a bowler is to knock down pins.  True, if you're on Guardian (for example), you might choose to start with a certain ball or surface, but it's still a guess.  Reading your ball reaction should tell you what to do.  I choose what to throw based on the reaction I see, not solely on the lane type.

I don't see any Brunswick synthetics in my area.
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