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squirrelywrath1

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Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« on: November 05, 2018, 11:34:04 AM »
Whether you agree with him or not, I personally find it refreshing hear candid comments such as this.    At 17:38 or so, he even takes a shot at another star player.   Watch, listen, and discuss please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34xgjCYMTk
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2018, 01:22:03 PM »
I like your style Juggernaut. You're 100% right on this.
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2018, 01:50:39 PM »
Quote from: Juggernaut on November 06, 2018, 01:18:59 PM
Bowling is what it is. Take it for what it is, enjoy it while you can, and get on with your life. If you aren’t having fun bowling, you are wasting both your time and money.

Well said.  Respect people that can make a living in bowling but so glad to keep it a fun hobby that gives me some exercise.  Ripped on USBC in past but now have my young son in USBC league with USBC coaches going to give them a pass I think.  May even get sanctioned at some point to bowl in fund raiser tournament for his league.  Still not happy with their leadership really but all one has to do is look at gymnastics and their organization to see how it could be infinitely worse.
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2018, 01:55:27 PM »
Quote from: BowlingForDonuts on November 06, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Not happy with their leadership really but all one has to do is look at gymnastics and their organization to see how it could be infinitely worse.

Oof.... bowling got rid of their Larry Nasser mighty swiftly. No one needs leadership like that around.
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2018, 01:59:49 PM »
Quote from: DP3 on November 06, 2018, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: BowlingForDonuts on November 06, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
Not happy with their leadership really but all one has to do is look at gymnastics and their organization to see how it could be infinitely worse.

Oof.... bowling got rid of their Larry Nasser mighty swiftly. No one needs leadership like that around.

Not to go too far off topic but USAG (and USOC problems) go far deeper than just Nassar.  Its a culture of adults basically torturing children for money (part of why USAG is about to get decertified) but neither here nor there.  Just happy USBC structure is giving my son a pathway to a lifetime of enjoying this wonderful game and I hope they never forget that is the most important thing they can do.  Growing the game after the Boomers retire is going to be the key to its survival.
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2018, 02:17:10 PM »
Junior Gold and Collegiate Bowling are two things that USBC does right.
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2018, 02:41:17 PM »
All you really have to do is read the marketing catch phrase, "a future for the sport".  PBA50 players are not in that category.  They, USBC, are building from the bottom up through support of jr. gold and collegiate programs.  Why did Amleto Monacelli have to go through the PTQ just to get into the Open given his track record?  Just look at the invitees vs. those that went through the PTQ.  It was full of young talent that needs to get exposed to a big stage in order to have a future for the sport. 
I have zero problem with the warm up policy on practice lanes and lack of practice on your starting pairs.  Everyone knew the policy going in.  USBC doesn't care about aging bodies.  They want to grow the young talent base.  It absolutely the right way to go about it.  Why cater to an aging pool of diminishing talent when you can develop a larger pool of vastly better talent?     
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2018, 03:12:58 PM »
1000% in agreement on focusing on the next generation.  I think it's been mentioned here before, PBA needs the equivalent of another Tiger Woods.  Hopefully we get one soon.

At the last youth championship in SoCal I was amazed at some of the young gun 2 handers ripping the ball 22mph and crushing/carrying everything.  Spare shooting was on par as well.  Lots of 750's and up and a couple 800's.  My 17yo son is starting to surpass me.  He has the ability, but lacks the experience/knowledge right now on making the correct adjustments.  Another year or two and he will be there.  He is a 1 hander but plays around 2 handed sometimes and is getting better.  Every time he crushes one at 20+ mph I curse a little under my breath, but I couldn't be more proud as a Father when he does it.   
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2018, 05:45:11 PM »
Quote from: SMACdi on November 06, 2018, 02:41:17 PM
All you really have to do is read the marketing catch phrase, "a future for the sport".  PBA50 players are not in that category.  They, USBC, are building from the bottom up through support of jr. gold and collegiate programs.  Why did Amleto Monacelli have to go through the PTQ just to get into the Open given his track record?  Just look at the invitees vs. those that went through the PTQ.  It was full of young talent that needs to get exposed to a big stage in order to have a future for the sport. 
I have zero problem with the warm up policy on practice lanes and lack of practice on your starting pairs.  Everyone knew the policy going in.  USBC doesn't care about aging bodies.  They want to grow the young talent base.  It absolutely the right way to go about it.  Why cater to an aging pool of diminishing talent when you can develop a larger pool of vastly better talent?     


Well, Pete Weber is an all-time great and has won the US Open the most times in history. While we all understand he's in the twilight of his career, his words should still carry weight.
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2018, 06:01:47 PM »
Exaclty ,Two handers are cheaters and the USBC sux! At least he has some balls to say what others wont.
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2018, 09:21:43 AM »
Quote from: DrBob806 on November 06, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
Quote from: SMACdi on November 06, 2018, 02:41:17 PM
All you really have to do is read the marketing catch phrase, "a future for the sport".  PBA50 players are not in that category.  They, USBC, are building from the bottom up through support of jr. gold and collegiate programs.  Why did Amleto Monacelli have to go through the PTQ just to get into the Open given his track record?  Just look at the invitees vs. those that went through the PTQ.  It was full of young talent that needs to get exposed to a big stage in order to have a future for the sport. 
I have zero problem with the warm up policy on practice lanes and lack of practice on your starting pairs.  Everyone knew the policy going in.  USBC doesn't care about aging bodies.  They want to grow the young talent base.  It absolutely the right way to go about it.  Why cater to an aging pool of diminishing talent when you can develop a larger pool of vastly better talent?     


Well, Pete Weber is an all-time great and has won the US Open the most times in history. While we all understand he's in the twilight of his career, his words should still carry weight.

I agree his words SHOULD carry weight but they won't with the current leadership team at USBC.  Again, he is not the future of the sport. 
They should do more to encourage the generation that revolutionized the sport from the 1980's through today to be more actively involved with the generation that will take the sport the next 20-30 years.  There are countless lessons to be learned on what got us where we are today. 
USBC Has a very myopic view of the bowling world.  If they could open their eyes a little and consider how we got here there truly may be a future for the sport.  "Rants" from elite professionals won't help the process very much considering the ego at the top.  In all likelihood, we went the other direction.         
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2018, 10:17:41 AM »
Quote from: DrBob806 on November 06, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
Well, Pete Weber is an all-time great and has won the US Open the most times in history. While we all understand he's in the twilight of his career, his words should still carry weight.

 So, we should listen to him because he has great credentials?

 What about all the other people with impressive qualifications? Do we also listen to them, or are they just cannon fodder for the great Pete Weber?

EVERYBODY has opinions, but not everybody can be right. Just because you’re a great guy, or a great bowler, doesn’t necessarily mean that you know JACK SHIT.

 Two handed bowling is cheating? REALLY?  THAT IS MERELY HIS OPINION, nothing else.
 Opinions are like assholes, everybody’s got one, but virtually all of them STINK!


 Bowling isn’t about a small group of self important people who have reached the “elite” level, it is about the MILLIONS of regular people, who spend HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars going to birthday parties, leagues, and other events held at their local bowling centers. It is about the MILLIONS of people buying shoes, bags, balls, rosin bags, ez slide, thumb tape, finger inserts, etc etc etc............., NOT a small group of elitists that think the bowling universe revolves around their asses.

 Now, don’t get me wrong. I, personally, respect what a lot of those “elite” guys did to get there. What I’m saying is that, just because they did all that, and got where they got, doesn’t necessarily equate to having knowledge or insight into what is happening to bowling, or how to fix it. They have OPINIONS, nothing else.

 Perhaps it can be “fixed”, or perhaps bowling has run its course. If it is worth saving, it will survive. If not, it will disappear, but NEITHER will happen due to the over valued opinions of a bunch of self important elitists. It will happen because either millions of people want it to, or millions of people just didn’t care enough to, save it.
 
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2018, 10:34:59 AM »
I would be surprised if Pete didn't rant.  It must really suck seeing prize checks smaller today than 30 friggin years ago even without inflation (adjusted for inflation Pete's daddy made like 7 or 8 million dollars in today's money in his career, Belmo by comparison is just a tad over a million).  I still think the game is in better shape than the sport and I just hope the powers that be don't kill both trying to fix the sport side. 
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2018, 11:00:35 AM »
>> Junior Gold and Collegiate Bowling are two things that USBC does right.

The USBC loves Junior Gold. It makes about $800,000 for the USBC and the tournament costs less than $100,000 to run. A net of over $700,000 for the USBC bank account. It's a cash cow.
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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2018, 03:23:24 AM »
Quote from: BowlingForDonuts on November 07, 2018, 10:34:59 AM
I would be surprised if Pete didn't rant.  It must really suck seeing prize checks smaller today than 30 friggin years ago even without inflation (adjusted for inflation Pete's daddy made like 7 or 8 million dollars in today's money in his career, Belmo by comparison is just a tad over a million).  I still think the game is in better shape than the sport and I just hope the powers that be don't kill both trying to fix the sport side. 

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Re: Brutally honest comments from Pete Weber on the US Open and USBC
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2018, 06:06:34 AM »
Quote from: BowlingforSoup on November 06, 2018, 06:01:47 PM
Exaclty ,Two handers are cheaters and the USBC sux! At least he has some balls to say what others wont.

So tired of bowlers who think two-handers are cheaters.  I am not a two-hander but if I could, I would.  You know why, because you can score better if you are good at it.  Surprised someone is not complaining about how hard some bowlers throw today and want a speed limit enforced.
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