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komike

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oily lanes.....
« on: September 18, 2003, 10:38:43 PM »
How do you play oily lanes? I have problems when tournaments lay out heavy oil. I have a lot of ball speed and no matter how aggressive the ball is it will not turn. I know by slowing down the ball it will not skid as much and will probably have a better chance of moving but that doesnt work either. Do you change hand positions when throwing on oily lanes? If you can suggest some tips on how to conquer this condition it will be much appreciated.

 

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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2003, 01:43:00 PM »
Not sure of your release, but if you put a lot of rotation on the ball, you may want to work on generating forward roll rather than sidespin.  This would help keep the ball from deflecting as much in the pocket (and  help trip those stupid 10 pins!).  But yeah, slower ball speed, and probably look for throwing a ball with a dull finish.  Oh yeah, and don't expect to swing it on floods - I usually have more success playing  a little more direct.  Good Luck!

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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2003, 01:48:13 PM »
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I know by slowing down the ball it will not skid as much and will probably have a better chance of moving but that doesnt work either.
Yes this does work..!! Now maybe you need to practice more, but if you have too much speed, no release will work.

9 wiggle's suggestions were also good. =:^D

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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2003, 12:15:44 AM »
Stay home
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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2003, 12:31:50 AM »
I have fairly high ball speed and a few years back even more so than today. But, several of the items listed already did work for me. So I would recommend a couple from personal experience. The first is ball surface, obviously a highly polished surface is not a great idea if lots of oil and throwing a rocket. The second ball adjustment was shorter pins. I have a had a couple balls over the years that were drilled in the 2 1/2" range and 1:30 that worked very well. Note here, I rolled these up the boards or very minimal swing not big hook. The roll not spin of the ball was also important as mentioned also. A ball that is spinning will not get much traction in oil and if it reacts at the end may be unpredictable. It is hard to add much else. Some brands of balls are traditionally better suited for this type shot for myself. I can think of a couple Zones that were great, an Ebonite that I drilled for this and my old Chaos that the drill might have not been right but the coverstock made it work well. I have always struggled with slowing the ball down to meet an oily condition, all that happened was my timing went down the tube and scores. So, try to practice the release Ragnar recommended, adjust the surface even as far as scuffing with 400 if you have too, can always take the ball back up if too far and if you have not tried short pins maybe that will do the trick. I have also seen the short pins work well on carrydown since the ball would have made its move and be rolling before it reached that area of the lane.

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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2003, 01:27:50 AM »
Don't bowl

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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2003, 04:08:48 AM »
I can only agree with what has already been said (except pchee ). I was working on reducing my backswing and speed yesterday to get more control over my game. Helped quite a bit with precision since I wasn't opening my shoulder and the lower speed allowed me to play a tight shot (10 to 7) where I'd usually have to point it in.

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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2003, 02:04:00 PM »
for combating oily lanes try:


1) a dull particle ball. the factory finish may not be dull enough. don't be afraid to try rougher grits of sandpaper( 220, 100, 80, etc. ).

2) an end-over-end roll. walter ray williams, jr., and norm duke master oily lanes with this type of release.

3) a straighter shot. you may have to play a down and in line. you may have to even point the ball up towards the pocket.

4) no loft. set the ball down earlier to give it a chance to roll.

5) speed control. like a major league pitcher you may need a changeup ball.

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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2003, 02:34:57 PM »
What do you mean peach Stay home, Don't bowl....

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Re: oily lanes.....
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2003, 02:54:54 PM »
Chris P covered ideas that have helped me.

About a foot forward on the approach.  Ball down from near my chest to waist high.

Smaller steps a smooth slow delivery with smooth arm movement and still good fingers has led to typically pretty good results on 50 foot shots!

REgards,

Luckylefty
Ps I find it feels like I am throwing 12 mph vs my usual 15 and stay very smooth yet with firm fingers at release.
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