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tenpin477

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Rule 400 Question
« on: May 17, 2008, 03:59:21 PM »
This question doesn't pertain to me, but to my cousin who does not post here.

He is planning to go to Detroit in July, and then move up to Adult after the tournament is over.

The question is, if he were to sign a prize waiver now in order to maintain his youth status, after Junior Gold would he be able to void that and bowl for money?
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Atochabsh

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Re: Rule 400 Question
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 12:20:48 AM »
My understanding of it, is that once you bowl for money, you are done as a youth bowler.  You can have the waiver for singles tournaments, but if you ever bowl for money you are done.  

And don't consider bowling under another name in an adult league and a youth league at the same time (in another center).  We had a youth bowler permanently suspended for that.  

You should be able to go adult whenever you want.  If its after Jr. Gold then so be it. But this subject is so touchy with rules that I'd call USBC for a final ruling and make sure you get the person's name and position when you converse.  

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ThongPrincess

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Re: Rule 400 Question
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 12:35:40 AM »
I assume the league he is planning or already joined is a singles competition.  By signing the waiver, the league reallocates the funds back into the prize fund to be distributed to elligible participants according to Bowl.com FAQ:

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400/13  When a bowler signs the USBC Prize Waiver and earns a prize they have waived claim to, what happens to these prizes?

Any waived prizes shall be returned to the prize fund for redistribution to the other eligible participants.


With that being the case, I would think the league would not want to have to go back and refigure the prize fund.  In addition, if he should receive a scholarship from Jr Gold, then receives prize money from bowling prior to bowing, it could result in a loss of the Jr. Gold scholarship, if they should find out.

My recommendation is for your friend to either wait until he returns from Jr Gold to make the move and actually bowl in the league.  If he doesn't want to wait, then I'd suggest leaving the waiver in place.

Just my humble opinion.



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tenpin477

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Re: Rule 400 Question
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 11:48:12 AM »
lol, ok Sean ill tell him you said. Funny that you knew exactly who I was talking about lol.

I dont think the jr. gold scholarship money is the issue behind him staying down to bowl anyway.

Atochabsh, he was going to use the waiver so that hes not bowling for money before JOG, but then bowl for money after JOG in the same league. That was the point of the topic.
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tenpin477

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Re: Rule 400 Question
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 12:35:19 PM »
Isnt the PBA Experience League at Maple 415 Max? In which case him averaging 230 I don't think he could bowl in that league.

And I think he wants to stay down and bowl in Detroit because of how well he did last year coming in 48th. He thinks he can make Junior Team USA, its not really about the scholarship money anymore.
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