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Gizmo823

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Bursting Bubbles . .
« on: December 20, 2013, 03:06:13 PM »
More and more bowling ball companies keep sprouting up, flooding the market with more and more equipment.  But the question is, is the new stuff really any better?  Are you scoring better at all?  And if you are, are you sure the ball is responsible for it?  My average has gone absolutely nowhere in 6 or 7 years, but I've gone through tons of balls.  Does today's equipment really act much different than stuff a decade ago?  Is it more durable?  I think all that's happened is people are getting more technical, and they're more in love with the theoretical science of it than the practical realism.  Sorry, but the latest and greatest isn't . . it's just different.  Storm's biggest success is also its biggest mistake in continuing to produce the Hyroad.  The ball is 5 years old, which is a testament to how good it is, but it's also undeniable proof that nothing that ANYBODY else is making is any better, despite the claims.  All it's done is reinforce a culture of being dependent on technology and equipment rather than skill. 
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 03:18:09 PM »
Yea, that HyRoad has darn near put Storm out of business.

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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 03:22:29 PM »
Lol that wasn't the point, but touche  ;D

Quote from: milorafferty on December 20, 2013, 03:18:09 PM
Yea, that HyRoad has darn near put Storm out of business.

 ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 03:25:29 PM »
Yea, I know Ham, just yanking your chain.  ;D

It's Friday, I'm bored.  8)
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 03:26:17 PM »
Yeap, lol it's Friday and I'm just trying to stir stuff up . . but as long as all these ball companies can keep convincing people that their newest ball is revolutionary, they'll keep selling them. 
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 03:47:31 PM »
Quote from: Gizmo823 on December 20, 2013, 03:26:17 PM
Yeap, lol it's Friday and I'm just trying to stir stuff up . . but as long as all these ball companies can keep convincing people that their newest ball is revolutionary, they'll keep selling them. 

True but they don't want to "Old Technology".... no one wants to pay for that. That's why it needs a brand new ribbon.
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 03:57:02 PM »
Quote from: Rightycomplex on December 20, 2013, 03:47:31 PM

True but they don't want to "Old Technology".... no one wants to pay for that. That's why it needs a brand new ribbon.

Yeah.....I kind of understand the mindset, but I kind of don't either.....make sense?

I'll pay for "old technology" because it works!! Why are folks continuing to buy Elite balls? Just sayin'

The light bulb core will be a fixture in  ball technology forever and ever, because it works well for a large majority of the populace. And I'll pay for that all day long, just because it works!
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 04:41:08 PM »
Same applies with Storm and the Hy-Road Pearl.... the T-Road Pearl was mildly popular, they come out with the Hy-Road and it's hugely successful.... Re-release the T-Road Pearl as the "Hy-Road" Pearl and people lose their minds buying it and singing of it's praises. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is different between the two but the Hy-Road Pearl is on Back Order and the T-Road Pearl barely sold...

Sometimes, you just need to catch people in the right moment...
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 06:15:28 PM »
it's a ball,people put to much stock into it.
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 06:27:00 PM »
I personally enjoy when these companies come out with new balls every two months. That means i can buy one of these balls 6 months down the road at half the price when they discontinue them. Win win for me!
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 07:17:20 PM »
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2013, 07:36:10 PM »
A lot of you guys have bowled with me.  Always was a down and in.  200 revs, 17mph.  Couldn't swing the ball more than 5 boards.

7 year break from bowling after my stroke.  Bought a new ball, Motive Tribal.  I'm playing 15 to 5 at the range finders with a backend I find hard to believe.

So, in my case, yes the technology has produced better equipment, if the amount of baords I can cover is any indication.

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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 07:58:40 PM »
No the technology hasn't change in years. Core specs are not changing. The parameters have been lessened by USBC to a small degree as a preventative. What has changed is knowledge of the reactions and drilling to match the bowler better.

That being said if anyone looks to a ball to increase average versus ability to spare and make good shots along with practice well you are a testament to the marketing and promotions presented by said companies.

I think there are definitely some stronger coverstocks sprinkled in vs a few years ago but not enough to say it is an advancement.

Better scores and higher averages come through work and practice. A new ball can be a useful tool or a hurtful crutch.
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 08:37:56 PM »
I hate to disagree Kid, I think coverstock tech(as far as the formulas and additives) have come a long way. If nothing more than just in oil absorption alone. Balls today absorb oil so much faster and make balls so much stronger than from years past. THS mask the differences in balls but sport patterns make the difference. I've thrown some of my balls from the past on Sport Patterns vs THS against the same cover and/or core with different cover than today's model and results aren't close.

The friction created by these new covers and the Ra values of the surface are much more conducive to making the balls hook that it's stupid. It is because of that oil absorption that ball companies are able to pump out balls at alarming rates. Balls become oil soaked and then you're ready for another one or take the chance of "sacrificing" strikes.

I will agree with that the core numbers do not and regulations by USBC ensure that for good reason. USBC wants to ensure that MB's, Pins, and cg's are marked in their proper places. But as far as the covers, i have to disagree.
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Re: Bursting Bubbles . .
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2013, 09:18:33 PM »
Quote from: Rightycomplex on December 20, 2013, 04:41:08 PM
Same applies with Storm and the Hy-Road Pearl.... the T-Road Pearl was mildly popular, they come out with the Hy-Road and it's hugely successful.... Re-release the T-Road Pearl as the "Hy-Road" Pearl and people lose their minds buying it and singing of it's praises. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is different between the two but the Hy-Road Pearl is on Back Order and the T-Road Pearl barely sold...

Sometimes, you just need to catch people in the right moment...

Troad pearl barely sold? You must bowl and live in Siberia.
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