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lilpossum1

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Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« on: June 20, 2015, 06:14:42 PM »
I need to stop trying to put more revs on a ball. Every time I have tried in the past, I have screwed it up and failed to add more revs. Now I have actually succeeded in doing it, and it feels good coming off my hand, but my scores are plummeting. I can't carry a strike to save my life and I am leaving a ton of splits. I have tried playing different parts of the lane, but that doesn't help. My consistency is gone. I need you guys to convince me to stop trying to be a bowler I am not. I need to get rid of idea that more revs will not improve my game.

 

lilpossum1

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2015, 07:29:07 PM »
I'm guessing here, can't see you bowl.
Most folks that try to raise rev rate have no clue what their doing.
You can't turn your hand really fast at the end. The result will look like he rev rate increased, but the ball will burn up and loose all he stored wnergy in he first 20-30 feet, and leave weird stuff.
You nailed it. I was uncupping my wrist pretty hard at the release.

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2015, 09:34:45 PM »
Scores are all that matter.  If low scores don't change your mind then nothing will.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 01:07:02 AM »
 Every persons physical ability level is different.

 Earl Anthony didn't get where he got by trying to be something he wasn't. He simply maximized and refined his personal abilities to the ultimate level HE could reach.

 Don't spend a lot of time trying to be something that you are not.

 The best in the game don't try to change their game, they try to maximize their individual abilities to the highest level possible.

 P. D. W. Is all about side turn, medium speed, and hooking the lane. He can do it the other way, but that game is his strength.

 W. R. W. Is all about speed and rolling up the back of the ball, going as straight as he can possibly go. He can do it the other way, but this is when he is at his best. It is who he is.

 They are both great bowlers, but neither tried to be what he isn't. They both played to their own individual strengths to be the best that they could possibly be.

 Be true to yourself, work on YOUR skills, develop what YOU are best at, and try to eliminate as many flaws as you can.  When you do this, you will be the best that you can possibly be.
Learn to laugh, and love, and smile, cause we’re only here for a little while.

strikeordie

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 07:13:23 AM »
At the end of the game it's about scoring. Do what you have to do to score.

lilpossum1

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 02:01:17 PM »
If I wanted to spend all night trying to score, I would go to the bar... But really though, thanks! I think you guys have talked me out of trying to be a bowler I am not

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2015, 02:48:08 PM »
You are supposed to score on the lanes first, then hit up the bar and score with the bowling groupies second.  I think!?!

lilpossum1

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2015, 03:30:15 PM »
Supposed to I think. Hasn't worked for me yet though lol. Has worked for two of my teammates in the past, but neither of them actually left the alley

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2015, 02:48:38 PM »
Supposed to I think. Hasn't worked for me yet though lol. Has worked for two of my teammates in the past, but neither of them actually left the alley

Consider yourself slapped upside the head with a virtual 2x4!

Been there, done that. Tried to reduce revs and increase ball speed and use Chris Barnes hinged pseudo-pushaway for 5 years. Nothing worked except my average went lower and lower. In the process, now, of returning to what I did best for 30 years; a difficult row to how, more difficult now that I be older and not much wiser ....
"None are so blind as those who will not see."

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2015, 04:24:55 PM »
Dittto Juggernaut's and Charlest's advice. Play to your personal strengths and focus
your efforts on perfecting these. I tried years ago to develop more of a power game
with less than satisfactory results. I also tried deploying a hinge pushaway, which also didn't work for my game. I spent months at both so it wasn't for lack of effort.
I finally came to the realization that these were not techniques that I could effectively
master on a consistent basis. I finally returned to my old game, which relies on accuracy and a standard pushaway and focus real hard on them. I also have expanded my knowledge of equipment and I  try to use it to enhance my "natural"
game. These are the combinations that have done more to improve my on- the -lane performance than anything else I have tried over the years. I just couldn't become
somebody I'm not, no matter how hard I tried.

So, unless one is blessed with a ton of natural talent (and there are few of these people around), focus on what works best for you and work real, REAL hard at it.
You will be surprised at how much improvement you can make.

 Best of luck!



lilpossum1

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2015, 08:08:59 AM »
Back to my old ways then. Thanks!

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2015, 08:52:44 AM »
Repeatability and accuracy trump rev rate most of the time.

To compete you need to have an excellent understanding of ball motion (transition from skid to hook to roll) and how to use it along with understanding how to attack a pattern/lane topography.  With this, no matter what your rev rate is, you should be able to compete.

lilpossum1

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2015, 10:47:44 PM »
Well I went back to my old ways. Had my best night for months. I was on easy 700 pace for the first two games until the lanes dried up and I couldn't carry a 10 pin. Still shot 650 with a split in the tenth of the last game. The ball was coming off my hand really well and i was really consistent. Only had two shots that weren't pocket all night. One was a Brooklyn strike and the other was a shot that jumped and went high when I didn't anticipate the lanes drying up

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2015, 11:00:26 AM »
Great bowling! Congratulations.

lilpossum1

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Re: Can somebody knock some sense into me?
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2015, 01:03:29 PM »
I did do one thing different. I was concentrating on trying to get the ball down sooner and roll it onto the lane. I have generally always been a thrower instead of a roller. My ballance seemed to be more on point last night. I don't know if that has something to do with it or not