Author Topic: 1 or 2 ounces, WHO CARES?! (Read 2064 times)

HamPster · « **on:** March 27, 2004, 06:03:09 PM »

We'll have a ball on the wall marked 15-3 (15 pounds, 3 ounces) and I'll have people look at the ball and shake their head. "Boy, if that ball was 15-4 or 15-5 I'd just get that one. I suppose you'd have to order a heavier one?" The urge to dismember . . Another popular question.
"How much weight does drilling remove?"
My answer: "Oh about 2 or 3 ounces depending on the size of the holes"
Their reply: "Well, is it closer to 2 or 3?"
My response: "Well, smaller holes make it closer to 2, and larger holes make it closer to 3."
They're still talking: "Do you have a chart or anything that tells you how much is taken out per bit size?"

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"2.7 million!"
"Are you sure?"
"Wait, no, that's 27 million. 27 million dollars! YES!"
*Awkward silence*
"Just got the, uh, . . holy spirit. You should get on that train, good ride."

Juggernaut · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2004, 09:22:31 AM »

Yea, I know the feeling. I have it happen all the time. In the old days it might have made some difference, but nowadays I am averaging 215 with a 14lb ball, so who cares if it is 15-2 or 15-4?

With the technology today, an ounce don't mean SQUAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2004, 11:15:40 AM »

Sawbones,

As much as I would like to agree with you, I just can't. My customers, here in a small market, are mostly repeat customers. If they even got a whiff that I wasn't completely honest with them, I could lose my base customers, then where would I be?

I try to keep a few of the good balls on hand that I think will sell, but end up having to order most of the stuff anyway.

I know an ounce doesn't matter, and so do you, but if it matters to the customer, I guess that's what's important. Otherwise, SCREW an ounce or two!!!

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JOE FALCO · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2004, 11:21:51 AM »

SAWBONES .. sound a little WICKED today!
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HamPster · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2004, 12:15:51 PM »

Haha, Bones, we've thought about stuff like that before. And most of the time we don't put the EXACT weight on the ball. If it weighs 15-3, and we're out of stickers and in a hurry or something, we'll stick a 15-4 or 15-2 sticker on there. We like to get it within an ounce though. I've got a ball that's 15-3 and one that's 14-15, and they both feel the same. You can never tell just how much weight drilling is gonna take out anyway. It depends on the layout too, cause with some you could be drilling into the core for all the holes, or for just one or two. Also, if you need a weighthole, that's another half ounce at least. It's not even close to an exact science, so that's why I try to keep telling people it doesn't make a difference. Of course you don't want to get a ball that's 15-0 and take 4 ounces out with all the holes, that WOULD feel different from a ball that's 15-3 after drilling, 14-12 is nearly a half pound lighter. But, lol, my basic point is that 1 or 2 ounces makes NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER.
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The whenever-I-feel-like-updating-my-signature series by Hamster, presenting a quote from The Italian Job.

"2.7 million!"
"Are you sure?"
"Wait, no, that's 27 million. 27 million dollars! YES!"
*Awkward silence*
"Just got the, uh, . . holy spirit. You should get on that train, good ride."

HamPster · « **Reply #5 on:** March 28, 2004, 12:34:59 PM »

Lol, yeah Bones, that sounded NOTHING like you at all. Almost thought it was an imposter. I still stand behind what I said though, cause it's the truth. There's no way to know just how much it's gonna take out. You can take the same ball, say a Uranium and both of them at 15-5. If you drill the fingers close to the pin, there's a good chance both of them will remove a fair amount of core. As far as the thumb, it depends on the pitches also. If you have a shorter span with not much pitch at all, the majority of the hole will have removed core over coverstock and filler. However, a longer span with say 3/4ths reverse will angle away from the core and remove more coverstock and filler. With the core of the Uranium being so dense, I assume that if the holes on both balls were the same size and depth, that different pitches and/or layout could contribute to weight differences in up to 2 ounces.

Drill one label with a large span with reverse pitch in both fingers and thumb, and it will be heavier than a ball drilled 4x2 with no pitch and a deep weighthole. Lol, does that make sense to anyone? I don't know, I'm tired . . I hope I sound like I have half a clue about what I'm saying.
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The whenever-I-feel-like-updating-my-signature series by Hamster, presenting a quote from The Italian Job.

"2.7 million!"
"Are you sure?"
"Wait, no, that's 27 million. 27 million dollars! YES!"
*Awkward silence*
"Just got the, uh, . . holy spirit. You should get on that train, good ride."

HamPster · « **Reply #6 on:** March 28, 2004, 01:35:52 PM »

Hmm, I'd say at least 5 to tell the difference. Of course, it always sounds more impressive to have things down to a fine art whether it's needed or not, but oh well. "Yeah, this ball weighs 15.24736 lbs."
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The whenever-I-feel-like-updating-my-signature series by Hamster, presenting a quote from The Italian Job.

"2.7 million!"
"Are you sure?"
"Wait, no, that's 27 million. 27 million dollars! YES!"
*Awkward silence*
"Just got the, uh, . . holy spirit. You should get on that train, good ride."

dicnic · « **Reply #7 on:** March 28, 2004, 01:47:15 PM »

Good Lord, at my age I can barely tell if the ball is round or square!!!

Let alone the difference in a few ounces. LOL to those who think a couple of ounces makes a difference.

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Juggernaut · « **Reply #8 on:** March 28, 2004, 02:15:06 PM »

I can't really even tell just by feel until the next day. And sometimes not even then, unless I had to play an inside line.

If I have to "put the mustard" on the shot, I can tell cause my hand and fingers will hurt the next day if the ball is 15lb, but not with a 14lb, that's why I dropped in weight.
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JohnP · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:47:38 PM »

Hamster Resurgence -- When they ask about a table for weight removal, show them the table you use for drilling balance holes and tell them they can compare the sizes and figure it themselves. -- JohnP

HamPster · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2004, 04:53:45 PM »

But if they have to actually do something, that means they get a discount, right?
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The whenever-I-feel-like-updating-my-signature series by Hamster, presenting a quote from The Italian Job.

"2.7 million!"
"Are you sure?"
"Wait, no, that's 27 million. 27 million dollars! YES!"
*Awkward silence*
"Just got the, uh, . . holy spirit. You should get on that train, good ride."

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