I know this has been covered a million times but i will bring it back again.  I have been having a ton of carry problems.  especially since i have switched companies which may have nothing to do with it.  I have a mid trrack in between high and low.  above average revs at about 17-18mph.  I went from storm to visionary because i like the hit of visionary better and they rev up a little better for me.  its been about 1 month and I am still having the trouble.  
I am not leaving many 10s but now on solid pocket shots there are being some strange leaves.  Like last friday the first game 10 solid shots 7 strikes 3
7-10s. then 2nd game i started leaving 4-9's  and 9-7's right handed.  then went to a tournament sunday is 4 games had 12 9 pins 4 4-9's  3 10 pins and then 4 7-10's.  I am using 16 and didn't know if moving to 15 would help at all but didn't know what to change or what.  I ended up trying 6 balls and all with different lines and stuff and couldn't carry but then if someone else goes through nose and carries but my problem is i leave 9's and other stuff every where not just there.

hey bull i know entry angles and stuff if u had read my post i said i tried different balls and ifferent angles different lines and hand positions and amish thnks u got the point of my post.

I used to use 16's, but I never threw the ball that hard or revved it that much when I did, and actually it's been so long I've forgotten any problems I might have had.  I DO remember that mixers used to carry better with 16's, BUT, 15's are a lot easier on my hand.  The equipment is so strong that 16's can only accentuate the problems with solid back row leaves, but it's still present with 15's.  14's deflect a little too much I think and tend to leave 10's, and I still left solid back row junk with them, so overall I think that 15's are probably the best weight.  For some people, they feel too light, so that's probably the biggest factor for you.
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I also have carry problems but then again I think any bowler
you ask will tell you he doesn't carry enough.

You say you changed balls, lines, and hand posistion but nothing
helped.  Then logic says it has to be one of the things that
has not changed.  That leaves ball weight and ball speed and ball
surface has not been touched upon.

I find that when I throw the ball over 16 mph my pocket hits
blow the rack apart but if they are not picture perfect then I
will leave single pin spares or worse.  When my ball speed is
less then 16 mph more pins stay low on the deck and I get much
more pin action and more scouts helping me out as well.

Since you are already throwing a 16lb ball 17-18 mph and reving
the ball up pretty good(according to you) going down in ball weight
will only make you throw the ball harder and probably cause you more
problems.

I suggest trying a ball with lots of  thumb weight and try to stay
away from high gloss finishes on bowling equipment.  Use equipment
with 1000 grit or more grit finishes so that the ball actually burns
up some of its energy going down the lane so that it does not pack
quite as much punch when it gets to the hole.

This is just my opinion.  I am not a pro by any means but
I know from experience where you are coming from because I used
to have the same problem.  Trial and error is how I come to the
above conclusion.  

Jac

Most of this sounds like wrong equipment choices, specifically, too much ball for the condition.  You say you have gone to earlier rev'ing equipment.  Fine.  But the earlier rev may well be bringing you higher into the pocket that it appears and the ball apparently is not deflecting on some hits and is dying on others.  The seven tens, in context, may well be rollouts, while the others are drive throughs.  I am not so certain, given the leaves you are describing, that "angle" of entry, per se is the problem.  You could: (a) increase your speed; (b) move to longer, flippier or milder equipment; or (c) reduce your rev rate.  

Try the following: if you have a choice of two balls to use, and you would generally use the stronger, try using the weaker.  I'll bet your carry percentage will increase.

Oh, FYI, I have been having "carry problems" as well.  With upper medium revs and medium speed, I am in the tube on average 31-34 times per set, and carry about 55%.  Average for someone with my revs and speed (and yours) on a house condition is about 65-70%.
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Edited on 11/11/2003 11:54 AM

If you're leaving pocket 7-10's and 4's or 4-9's, your ball has too much positive weight and/or your layout is giving you too much length. You need to mellow out your reaction, getting a more even arc and less of a hockey stick reaction. =:^D

Storm, try some CG out drillings, maybe with the CG on your axis, 4" pin, hole on your axis. Also, lowering your positive side weight will help, maybe even going to negative. =:^D