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Powermachine-

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carrydown
« on: June 29, 2009, 01:40:07 AM »
what balls these days are good for carrydown i tried to clean and resurfaced my max zone and come to the conclusion that its deader than a door nail "(, i currently throwing an uprising , soon after the first game carry down starts to occur and i also suffer the over under reaction im not brand specific. I move left the ball goes wash out i move right it jumps right off the beak hmm been trying hand positions and everything
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J_Mac

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Re: carrydown
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2009, 09:43:27 AM »
Is it carrydown, or is it blown apart heads? Switch to a weaker cover and add surface if needed to get through the carrydown. Sidewinder was good for this sort of thing...
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BKloss

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Re: carrydown
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009, 09:45:11 AM »
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what balls these days are good for carrydown i tried to clean and resurfaced my max zone and come to the conclusion that its deader than a door nail "(, i currently throwing an uprising which is a pearl, soon after the first game carry down starts to occur and i also suffer the over under reaction im not brand specific.
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Re: carrydown
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009, 09:47:27 AM »
ah the polish ^^ sorry <3
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BKloss

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Re: carrydown
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 09:48:58 AM »
Have you tried taking the polish off and maybe having the uprising at 4000? or even 2000?
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Re: carrydown
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 09:50:38 AM »
oob is 4000, so maybe just take the shine with a scotch brite pad i can go to my shop tommorrow and see if 2000 would be better and mess around with the surface. if that is the answer that will help but the less surface would be more friction i mean right now first game is fineee good solid look about 3rd frame in 2nd game just swims down there.
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BKloss

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Re: carrydown
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 09:58:25 AM »
I have the Uprising, Suggested layout and it seemed to me OOB at 4k with polish it never recovered. I am speed dominant, so I took it to 2000 and the ball would start up earlier and still had good recovery if I leaked it outside. Thats just my thoughts, because alot of the ball companies seem to apply ALOT of polish from the factory.
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Re: carrydown
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 09:59:37 AM »
hm ok bak im rev dominate but i can change like i said, 15-17.5 or so and anywhere from 250-375 if i have too so maybe i will try to knock it down to 2000 and see how i do tommorrow.
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Sean John 369

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Re: carrydown
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 10:52:07 AM »
have you tried moving right with your feet?  That usually gets me through carrydown
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Re: carrydown
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 11:00:27 AM »
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have you tried moving right with your feet?  That usually gets me through carrydown
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Pretty sure he's left handed...
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Re: carrydown
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2009, 11:11:14 AM »
im tried moving left and right up and down and just the 2nd game is over under hell and just like a puddle of guck once i start moving left and right in the 2nd game ball wont turn over just skid washout, move in jump to the 3 pin
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Danes07

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Re: carrydown
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2009, 11:43:43 AM »
I would try something with a little bit of surface on it.  You don't have get extreme with the surface, but something other than shiny.  It'll smooth out the lanes and give you a better reaction, something you can work with.

I used to use almost primarily pearl equipment or solids that were polished.  This was mainly due to the fact that I was very rev dominant and needed something that would get down the lane.  Carrydown would kill me everytime.  Now that I've gotten a little more ball speed I've started using stuff that has some surface on it.  Ball doesn't jump when it hits dry boards now, but the reaction is much more predictable.
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Re: carrydown
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2009, 12:18:00 PM »
Bob hit the nail on the head. The Uprising needs head oil to perform. Move inside with the  oil, slow your ball speed down and that should solve your problem.

Also, the Uprising works well at 1000 and 2000 abralon polished. I prefer Finesse It II but Bean's polish or clean and sheen works well with the Uprising cover. The Clean and sheen on 1000 abralon is close to 1500 polish, but does not leave as shiny a finish and is not as jumpy off the dry.

Last, the Uprising is a sponge. Must clean it often. Hot water bath is a must every ten to 15 games to keep it in top shape.

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Re: carrydown
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2009, 11:08:42 PM »
thank you guys for the advice i will clean it tommorrow, then make the adjustments to the surface and see how they go, i tried moving in and was stillhooking right even with the slower ball speed moving inside and trying to tighten it up it never got there, will post more tommorrow.
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Re: carrydown
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 12:54:27 PM »
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have you tried moving right with your feet?  That usually gets me through carrydown
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Pretty sure he's left handed...


Okay, have you tried moving left?  :0)
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