Post by: slashrr69 on January 03, 2009, 11:24:25 PM
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someone must have a comment about this subject, anyone??
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Post by: Jay on January 08, 2009, 03:55:56 AM
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 08, 2009, 10:47:29 AM
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My thumb is offset to the right, and I'm right handed. It's not that common that means I have a dropped ring finger. Most people have spans on their ring finger longer.
I'v had a 1/8" dropped ring finger for the past 2 1/2 years until 3 weeks ago at which time I increase it to 1/16 longer than my MF.....
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 08, 2009, 11:47:30 AM
You make a new centerline anywhere from 1/8 to over an 1 1/2 to the right on a right hander or vice versa on a lefty. It will take a few times to get it right, I had this for about 3 years.
Honestly got refitted the correct way and bowl better than ever, Jeff Walsh from K & K bowling services hooked me with my current grip and his co worker Sakae initally got me away from the CLT.
A T-grip is a T-Grip in no other terms, yes there all offset grips but they all equal a T-Grip just different spans and pitches.
Just try span and pitch changes and save yourself the hassle of having a cheese ball with plugging all over it.
Post by: slashrr69 on January 08, 2009, 01:05:23 PM
say hello to jeff walsh for me, tell jufer said hello.. jeff is actually the guy how told me I needed to move my thumb.. small world, he used to live here in western ny.. another friend of mine works for the shop too now and he is a transfer from here to there.. flo slowinski maybe you heard of him too.. peace!! slashrr69
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 08, 2009, 02:36:11 PM
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hey bowlingnut
say hello to jeff walsh for me, tell jufer said hello.. jeff is actually the guy how told me I needed to move my thumb.. small world, he used to live here in western ny.. another friend of mine works for the shop too now and he is a transfer from here to there.. flo slowinski maybe you heard of him too.. peace!! slashrr69
Edited on 1/8/2009 2:06 PM
Post by: Lillen on January 08, 2009, 02:56:44 PM
http://www.jeffcarterbowling.com/Arsenal2.html
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Post by: JohnP on January 09, 2009, 10:44:20 AM
Post by: slashrr69 on January 11, 2009, 11:49:37 PM
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 12, 2009, 01:30:19 AM
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The layout shown on Jeff's website cannot be correct as drawn. The point of an equilateral triangle has to be half way between the points of the other two angles, so if both spans are 3 3/16" the thumb hole will be on the centerline. The RF span has to be longer than the MF span to match up with the layout shown. Perhaps what is shown is the spans for the standard T-grip before the thumb is offset. -- JohnP
I agree the drawing cannot be right as drawn. If he had a dropped ringfinger, then it could be right as that is similar to what I used for the last 2 1/2+ years prior to changing it approx 3 weeks ago. I use grips and had a 1/8" dropped ringfinger and 4 3/16 x 4 3/16 c-c (4 5/16 x 4 5/16+ total span) and it looked similar to the drawing that Jeff has, but not quite that extreme with the thumb that much left of the original center line.
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Post by: Jay on January 12, 2009, 01:54:08 AM
Post by: Mike Austin on January 12, 2009, 05:12:51 AM
1. Drill middle finger (like T Grip)
2. Drill thumb hole with top of hole hitting the span line and right side of hole hitting center line. (Like picture of Jeff Carter's grip)
3. Draw new center line from top/center of thumb hole to proper position of bridge.
4. Measure/draw line for ring finger span, and drill ring finger orientated on new center line.
I drilled myself a ball or two and a few for customers with this method. Couldn't really feel much difference. For myself, I didn't like the extra time required in drilling the ball, and as I am not overly picky about my grip, faster is/was better.
When drilling an offset thumb, I never "fit" anyone for an "offset" thumb. I copied many from other balls, usually went like this:
1. Drill middle finger.
2. Drill thumb with hole moved parallel left 1/16 to 3/8 of center line.
3. Drill ring finger last on original center line.
If you mark off and drill fingers first and then just move the thumb left of center line, then it is harder to measure the amount of the offset unless the lines were scribed on the ball.
Basic geometry says there is only one way to lay a triangle on to a sphere. You can draw the lines any way you want, but the end result will be the same.
The dropped ring finger is not a thumb hole offset to the right, the ring finger span is just shorter.
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Post by: Brickguy221 on January 12, 2009, 10:09:59 AM
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I'm confused. If you have a dropped ring finger, the thumb should be to the right for a righty. That's how my span is, 4 1/4" x 4 1/8".
That is possible because your span is shorter on the RF along with the dropped RF, but lengthen the RF to equal or longer than the MF with a dropped RF and the thumb moves to the left of the original center line.
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Post by: Jay on January 13, 2009, 01:54:38 AM
Could you further explain how to do that? I don't see how it would still be a dropped ring finger then, and the span wouldn't be correct either. For example, my span makes it impossible for the thumb to be on or left of my centerline, correct?