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CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« on: April 18, 2007, 12:10:11 PM »
The CGNOMADDAH video is up and running on www.brunsnick.com

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2007, 12:18:15 AM »
IMHO, I think there would be a difference if you had one stacked under the fingers and one with pin under the fingers and the cg at 45 degrees.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2007, 12:22:29 AM »
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IMHO, I think there would be a difference if you had one stacked under the fingers and one with pin under the fingers and the cg at 45 degrees.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2007, 12:28:35 AM »
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IMHO, I think there would be a difference if you had one stacked under the fingers and one with pin under the fingers and the cg at 45 degrees.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2007, 12:56:43 AM »
You're saying that if you moved the pin to a new, but constant position, that the cg location would then have an effect?
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2007, 01:11:43 AM »
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You're saying that if you moved the pin to a new, but constant position, that the cg location would then have an effect?
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Perhaps he forgot to watch the movie?
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2007, 01:13:52 AM »
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In a statically ignorant world, you are right, placement doesn't matter. However, the second you pop a hole and start to shift around the mass inside the ball to ensure legality, CG placement begins to matter a whole lot.




The point of the video is to point out that the rules that make a ball legal or not are pretty stupid.  And then to make things worse the USBC wants to make even more restrictions on where a CG can be?!


The whole point of this video is to prove that "kicking out the CG" is a dated idea that has absolutely no effect on a bowling ball.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2007, 01:16:38 AM »
I call it the Placebo Effect. If you tell someone that kicking the CG will give them more hook, charm, whatever, then it's bound to happen!
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2007, 01:23:13 AM »
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The whole point of this video is to prove that "kicking out the CG" is a dated idea that has absolutely no effect on a bowling ball.  



Kicking the CG out does matter once you put the hole in the proper spot to tweak reaction. I do not believe that is being contested at all.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2007, 01:29:12 AM »
I think an article will be up and running sometime in the near future. I think I will focus on modern day ball layouts, and proper use of CGs, PSAs, etc.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2007, 01:42:51 AM »
I think there would be a difference. Why don't you try it without the negative cg layout?
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2007, 01:46:26 AM »
I can't wait to see what they have to say about this vid! Thanks Nick for the great vid.

PS I bet you felt dirty throwing those things.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2007, 01:48:35 AM »
My hands have been soaking in acetone for hours...
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2007, 08:00:45 AM »
The usual mature comments from the people who think they are right.

Hard to tell much since the shots you threw were so inconsistent.  Either that or the cg makes such a huge difference that it causes one to roll early and go no further than 8, while other get a lot more length and drift the whole way out to 3.

I'm not sure what the second test was supposed to prove.  A bunch of balls thrown purposely wide won't look good, no matter how it's drilled.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2007, 08:29:56 AM »
That sound of quiet from a lack of arguments is the sound of the opposition's heads asploding, or maybe its imploding.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2007, 08:32:07 AM »
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Every shot was good accuracy.. Did you notice when he got it out wide he did that intentionally?

Nick, I guess you should've explained every shot that you were going to throw..


What kind of garbage is that???  He meant to pull some barely inside the second arrow at the break point and others out to 3, and one, I'm supposed to know that he did it intentionally, and two, that the ball won't react differently when it hits more dry?

If you're not going to try to be objective, don't reply.  I never said that the shots are dramatically different, so don't try to put words in my mouth.  I just don't see enough consistency to make a solid judgement.  This just showed the same basic thing as the Brunswick video.  CG placement doesn't have a big impact.  Does it have some?  I'm still not sold one way or the other.
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