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CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« on: April 18, 2007, 12:10:11 PM »
The CGNOMADDAH video is up and running on www.brunsnick.com

Enjoy.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #166 on: April 23, 2007, 12:16:57 PM »
This has definitely been more popular than I could have ever imagined.  I guess lots of people have opinions on the subject, which is fine.  My question, for the people who do believe they see a difference in ball reaction based upon cg location, is how od you decided which ball to throw?  Its an honest question..I want to hear the rationale.  I mean, do you choose based upon the lane condition (i.e. its a second shift league, so therefore I am going to throw a ball with xx side weight and xx finger/thumb weight) or is it that ball #1 with statics A isn't reacting properly (or hitting the pocket but not carrying), so therefore I am going to switch to ball #2 with statics B?  Or have you found that a certain ending statics roll best for you?  Does anyone actually have two identical balls drilled with the pin in exactly the same position, with the coverstock prepped the same, only differencing in statics?

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #167 on: April 23, 2007, 02:15:51 PM »
If you get rid of top/side/bottom weight restrictions then would ball companies even need to create a "top weight" in a new ball?  If they don't matter then we wouldn't need a heavy spot in a ball to counteract drilling holes in a ball.

After drilling you'd end up with a negative top and negative side depending on where/if you drilled a x-hole.  But since statics don't matter, who cares right?

Would the CGNOMADDAH guys be comfortable with that if the weight restrictions were lifted?
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #168 on: April 23, 2007, 02:58:14 PM »
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Would the CGNOMADDAH guys be comfortable with that if the weight restrictions were lifted?


Yes, I would be comfortable without knowing top weight.

But it would still be listed on ball boxes to passify the "old school" ball drillers, whom of course for the most part, blindly, believe it matters.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #169 on: April 23, 2007, 03:16:35 PM »
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Yes, I would be comfortable without knowing top weight.

But it would still be listed on ball boxes to passify the "old school" ball drillers, whom of course for the most part, blindly, believe it matters.


I'm talking about not even having a top weight (which I think means having a 0" pin so that the core is centered in the ball).  So just a pin and a mb marker on asymm balls.  No more crazy pin outs or off line cg markers to complicate things.   I don't know if that means that you'd end up with a negative top after drilling or not, but it shouldn't matter.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #170 on: April 23, 2007, 03:18:49 PM »
I've already said to get rid of the USBC weight allowances, pin lengths and tops would be a non-issue for ball drillers.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #171 on: April 23, 2007, 04:11:20 PM »
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Or, maybe I do. Drill a ball with the CG directly above the pin. What happens to the flare?


Nothing changes, because the core is still orientated the same.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #172 on: April 23, 2007, 04:57:12 PM »
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track will migrate away from the fingers, rather than toward them.


Reverse flare... not from CG.
That could be from pin position.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #173 on: April 24, 2007, 12:38:24 AM »
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track will migrate away from the fingers, rather than toward them.


Reverse flare... not from CG.
That could be from pin position.


I have a Diablo with the pin right above my thumb hole, and the cg in the center of my grip.  This ball does not reverse flare, but it does track higher and hits the middle finger hole just before entering the pins.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #174 on: April 24, 2007, 11:50:53 AM »
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #175 on: April 24, 2007, 01:30:43 PM »
Billy,

If it my belief that shifting the CG in any such way will not affect track flare or hook potential. Take another HRG with the same pin location, but with a CG directly above, and there will still be no measurable difference.

By the way, thanks for making your way to ballreviews, your input here will definitely be an asset to the community.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #176 on: April 24, 2007, 01:38:50 PM »
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By the way, thanks for making your way to ballreviews, your input here will definitely be an asset to the community.


Billy: Ditto on seeing you here. I had mostly Track during the time you were there with Phil. I really liked the line of products you were involved with. I still have my Orange Silencer from those better days.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #177 on: April 24, 2007, 01:42:36 PM »
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By the way, thanks for making your way to ballreviews, your input here will definitely be an asset to the community.


He's been here for quite a while, you've just been focussed too much on Brunswick to see him in the DT forum.

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #178 on: April 24, 2007, 02:48:18 PM »
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orange silencer..Are you taljking about a Hot Coral Triton, or did you get a second?  


It was one of the early batches of Silencers. From what I was told, Track produced a few hundred in Orange color w/factory polish, and then stopped producing them. Maybe it was a market test to see how they would be received. Anyway Track stopped the Orange covers and started producing the Blue covers with a dull surface.

I'll never forget when I took it to Nationals in Reno, and how the guy checking in balls picked it up in amazement and passed it around to his buddies -- he'd never seen one before.

I guess I could tell where CG placement is on the ball, but it wouldn't matter.

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #179 on: April 24, 2007, 05:11:03 PM »
I'll try my best to breathe new life into this stale topic:

Let's define symmetrical:  no ball is truely symmetrical

They are either:
1. Asymmetrical
2. Two-sided symmetry - symmetrical on 1 axis like a Fury
3. Four-sided symmetry - symmetrical on 2 axes like a light bulb or mushroom core

Now I can understand your argument that spinning a 4-side around with the pin stationary should produce little change in motion.

Now look at the Fury core:
http://www.ballreviews.com/reviews/reviews.asp?BallID=801&ManufacterID=2

Spinning that around moves the point of the edge of the core around.  Now there is no way to know where that point is located within the ball, unless a Determinator is capable of finding it.  But don't you think it's orientation could affect motion.  If not, please explain.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #180 on: April 24, 2007, 05:56:29 PM »
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I'll try my best to breathe new life into this stale topic:



How about trying to stay a little more on topic then?
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