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BrunsNick

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CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« on: April 18, 2007, 12:10:11 PM »
The CGNOMADDAH video is up and running on www.brunsnick.com

Enjoy.
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kmanestor22

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #211 on: April 27, 2007, 12:36:07 AM »
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oh plz if your going to move move a board not half!
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must be same mentality:

cgnoammadah -> halfboardnomaddah
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Steven

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #212 on: April 27, 2007, 10:37:52 AM »
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must be same mentality:

cgnoammadah -> halfboardnomaddah

 


K: LOL! Actually, since Billy Yinger joined the thread, there has been some sanity injected, and some progress with it. Brunswick acknowledges some measurable effect, so obviously your questions about the physics have some merit.

Regardless, it's now CGDOMADDAH, but only if you're skilled enough to use it to your advantage. That opens up a whole new debate.......
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #213 on: April 27, 2007, 11:41:22 AM »
Ric - I've been taught, and read on Mo's website a long time ago, that balls with symmetric cores and pin-outs longer than 3 inches, have a theoretical mass bias. Approximately how strong would such a MB be? I ask, wondering if perhaps some of the perception of the CGMADDAH folks may be based on balls with significantly long pins.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #214 on: April 27, 2007, 11:41:35 AM »
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oh plz if your going to move move a board not half!
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must be same mentality:

cgnoammadah -> halfboardnomaddah
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Please I still move little amounts like half board to make small adjustments and that still works. I have not bought into the whole you must make a big move in order to keep up with changes. I just make smaller moves more often IF I have to move.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #215 on: April 27, 2007, 12:22:59 PM »
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something needs to be done before all of the skill and accuracy doesnt matter either.


Too late...for most of us, it already doesn't.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #216 on: April 27, 2007, 01:02:22 PM »
Ric: Somewhere in this vast circle, you stated the following:

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We have stated in ball reaction and motion that the placement of the starting CG has little to no effect on it, as well as static weights. Approx 5-7% and as the rev rate increases, it is closer to the 7%.  


And now, that disqualifies 98% of THS bowlers. Coming up with such precise numbers is quite an accomplishment. Especially the 98% figure.  Regardless, for the purposes here, I'll go with it.

Who do you think comes to ballreviews.com? The 6:00pm mixed league handicap bowler who's main objective is to get through the night without being too drunk to throw the ball? Usually not. A high percentage who come here (I haven't done your precise % studies) might see some of that reaction difference you love to downplay.

Stir the pot? Only if your definition is someone who doesn't automatically agree with you.  

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Edited on 4/27/2007 1:43 PM
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kmanestor22

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #217 on: April 27, 2007, 03:34:55 PM »
I have acknowledged that most of the time a difference in cg position would be hard or impossible to see.  The CGNOMADDAH people refuse to acknowledge that SOME people may be able to perceive a difference in reaction in SOME balls with differing cg placement.  They look down on these people like they are idiots.  This is the problem here.  Science and common sense is in CGDOMADDAH's favor.  The only thing you have going is perception.  Admit now that CGCANMADDAHBUTDOESNTTOMOST and I will stop arguing.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #218 on: April 27, 2007, 03:53:32 PM »
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We have stated in ball reaction and motion that the placement of the starting CG has little to no effect on it, as well as static weights. Approx 5-7% and as the rev rate increases, it is closer to the 7%.  


The CGNOMADDAHs have acknowledged that CGDOMADDAH.  See quote above.  Just remember, you're not good enough to notice.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #219 on: April 27, 2007, 04:01:52 PM »
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Just remember, you're not good enough to notice.  


Ishmael: I get it. Brunswick has made this clear many times.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #220 on: April 28, 2007, 03:57:13 PM »
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I just have issues with those that no matter the topic, they are contradictory.


Ric, you're off on one of your tangents again. I have no idea where you're going with 'contradictory'. I've stated (numerous times) that I think CG placement is minor, but since it has some minor effect, use that knowledge when setting up a ball. I don't know how much simpler it can be than that.

So congratulations on the preciseness of your 5%-7% effect of CG placement, and your evaluation that having this knowledge would only be of use to 2% of bowlers. That's all fine and well (along with you sleeping well at night).

But don't get all bent out of shape when there is discussion about applicability to those in the 2% (or whatever) range. Instead of simply regurgitating tired lowest common denominator numbers such as cover dictates 70%-80% of ball reaction, or that CGNOMADDAH to almost everyone who picks up a ball, provide insights into the exceptions. Use some of that experience you keep reminding us you have to provide information that can't be picked up from any old website.

I, and the others here who don't automatically feed at your trough, just take exception to your continuous efforts to discredit any discussion that falls outside the bounds of your 'educational' video. Maybe if you stepped off your perch for a few minutes, you'd think a little more clearly about this.

   


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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #221 on: April 29, 2007, 04:49:36 AM »
Horse is dead, why are you all still beating it?
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