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CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« on: April 18, 2007, 12:10:11 PM »
The CGNOMADDAH video is up and running on www.brunsnick.com

Enjoy.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2007, 05:37:05 PM »
Nick: Appreciate the feedback on the Solid Uraniums. They would have been excellent pieces for your test.

Again, I really like the quality of your video productions. I'm just pointing out stuff I saw that caused me doubt being on the other side of the fence.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2007, 05:45:23 PM »
Another great video Nick! I have to second the motion on more Krista videos! Ha!
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2007, 05:47:46 PM »
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Nick,

You still have the balls...

Strip the lanes and bowl again!

Lets see if this changes anything....
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2007, 06:18:29 PM »
It would be impossible for me to create a video that makes a statement like I'm making, and have the other side of the fence be satisfied.

The pattern I bowled on was no different than any other pattern I've bowl on in my videos for the past year. I film all my videos after a 6pm league, so the lanes are never fresh.


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Edited on 4/19/2007 6:17 PM
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2007, 06:22:48 PM »
Analogy:

CGMATTA people to Potsmokers.

They just enjoy living in an altered mental state.

Leave them alone, dreaming up reactions arent hurting anyone but themselves.

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2007, 06:36:04 PM »
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It would be impossible for me to create a video that makes a statement like I'm making, and have the other side of the fence be satisfied.


I don't think that has to be the case. For this video, I think you knew the Solid Uranium, which reacts through much more of the lane than an HRG, would have made for a better demonstration.

I think if the questions already put out were answered, you'd have some more CGNOMADDAH believers.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2007, 06:39:24 PM »
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CGMATTA people to Potsmokers.

They just enjoy living in an altered mental state.

Leave them alone, dreaming up reactions arent hurting anyone but themselves
 


Hey Mav, back to your old cranky self

I guess it's easier to get on a soap box and come up with cute little zingers than it is to answer a few simple questions I asked of you.
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2007, 06:41:24 PM »
this will be endless, even if Nick did everything per request, we would still hear some excuse like..

"look at that CG Pos shot, look at how it blows out the 5 pin into the 8, instead of the ball doing all the work, ugh! what a smart layout!" <pat on the back>

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2007, 06:42:51 PM »
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Hey Mav, back to your old cranky self


I'm actually quite happy living in reality.

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2007, 07:14:48 PM »
I have no opinion on this -- yet -- and it wouldn't do me any good to fight for one side or another out of belief and be wrong.

My browser also wouldn't let me watch the video.

Having said all that, here's what I'd like to see for future tests:

1) Whatever balls were used in this test (again, I couldn't see the video) used on COMPLETELY STRIPPED lanes, for no other reason that to find the exact spot each loses tilt.
2) Same balls, used on a low-volume, short, flat-oiled lane, with re-oil between every five or six shots or so (time-consuming, I know, but if you want to be a scientist...)
3) Then, a comparison test between balls of different companies, syms vs. assyms, and polished pearls vs. sanded reactives.
4) Comparison of balls with different pin-to-CG and pin-to-MB distances from 0" up to 13" to determine whether distance has any bearing.
5) And finally, the biggie: Thrown by a machine and not a person.

All balls would have to be spun with a determinator to confirm markings beforehand. I'd also like to see computer simulations run on each.

Basically, what I'm asking for would cost thousands and wouldn't be practical for anyone to actually do. But if you're looking to make definitive statements, you need definitive evidence, which I don't think you'll be able to get from watching human beings throw limited numbers of equipment on limited selections of conditions.

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2007, 07:20:16 PM »
Jess you don't want much do you? Maybe thats what they ought to do every company that makes a new ball make a video of their ball and everyone elses ball with the same drilling to see what the difference is then it really wouldn't make any difference about anything
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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2007, 07:24:43 PM »
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Jess you don't want much do you? Maybe thats what they ought to do every company that makes a new ball make a video of their ball and everyone elses ball with the same drilling to see what the difference is then it really wouldn't make any difference about anything
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Yeah, just call me the difficult one. (g)

On the second part of your post, I'd love to see an independent test facility invest in a Throwbot and bench test every ball that came out. I can hear marketing departments cringing already...

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2007, 07:35:04 PM »
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Steven

I'm sorry but what Nick and Mav have said is true. No matter what is done in the video you will attempt to find fault to prove your side or if nothing else, disprove Nick.
Friction is what causes a ball to change direction as does the proper amount of axis rotation, NOTHING ELSE. You believe what you want to believe and I will do the same. Forces applied to the bowling ball help create reaction and friction allows it.
There is no true test that can prove anything, as everytime a ball is thrown down the lane, it changes. The surface of the ball changes-in absorption as well as temperature, the amount of oil on the lane changes as does the lanes surface-residual heat and deteriation. To add to this, so does the amount the earth has rotated (for those of you that realize the earth is round), the location of the sun is different effecting the tides, the weather has changed along with the temperature, the amount of humidity and the barometric pressure. And last but not least, the person throwing the shots is and has aged, as I have through this post. So thank you as I will be unable to get this time back.
What do you argue about when you are not arguing about this?
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Ok! So all we have to do is:

1) Invent a resin ball that doesn't absorb or move oil, or change tempurature when encountering friction.
2) Invent a machine that keeps the Earth from rotating to keep the tides/temp in check.
3) Then we gotta all drink from the Kool-Aid like in that Tuck Everlasting book, then we won't age a bit.


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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #74 on: April 19, 2007, 07:37:38 PM »
In the end of the day, the machine in the Brunswick video supports Nick's and Rick's theory and conclusion, plain and simple. If you want to argue that the world is flat, go right ahead. Invincible ignorance is just that.

Edited on 4/19/2007 7:43 PM

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Re: CG NOMADDAH ***VIDEO***
« Reply #75 on: April 19, 2007, 09:01:43 PM »
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