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Ratt_bowling

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Ever create a new league?
« on: April 04, 2014, 12:20:42 AM »
I'm curious because I have to bowl pretty late after I get all my kids to bed.  It would still be a bit of a struggle for me to get to the latest starting league in my area.  It is also a bit more expensive than I was hoping a league would cost.  So, have any of you ever created a new league?  How far I. Advance do you have to plan it?  Did you recruit somehow?  How much do you charge?  What is all that money used for?  I can't think k of any more questions right now, but I'm sure I will have more.

 

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Re: Ever create a new league?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2014, 11:04:13 AM »
Bowling centers need to remain consistent in their pricing or you alienate existing customers.  If they have other late leagues, and give you a lineage break to start a new league the existing league will want the same rate.  Then the spiral begins. 

During your open bowling at this center you have been exposed to a lineage rate that is unrealistic.  $1.75 may get some people in the door, but the center is hurting themselves with this rate as everyone that bowls at this price now feels that is the value of a game of bowling.  When I started in the industry in 1985 the prime time rate for bowling was either 1.65 or 1.75.  30 years later centers are still selling their product for the same price and customers feel ripped off when prices are close to $5.00 like they need to be. 

Everyone is quick to rip AMF for cutting back center hours and all the changes they have made, but they recognize they are better off not opening the center instead of lowering the price and devaluing their product.  If you let people bowl for $2.50 during the day they will never pay $5 a game in the evening.

If you go in and they give you a discounted rate to start a league are you ever going to want to give that discount back?

Don't take any of this wrong, I applaud you for wanting to join a league and even more so for wanting to start one.  A customer is always going to want the best price possible.  I'm just giving the non customer opinion.   

Ratt_bowling

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Re: Ever create a new league?
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2014, 10:30:12 AM »
Lineage fees are $10.75.  So I'm trying to figure out the breakdown of fees on an $18 a week league.  Remember, I've never been in a league so I don't know how the money rewards go.  The bowling center guy said when a league starts the members all meet and greet.  The elect a secretary then decide on fees and rewArds.  He said the secretary usually gets about 50 cents a week.  So $18-10.75-.5= $6.75 into prize kitty.  Does everyone get money back after season?

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Re: Ever create a new league?
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2014, 10:37:14 AM »
It depends on the prize fund that is voted in by the league.  Once a league starts a prize committee is appointed to come up with some options and then they are voted upon.

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Re: Ever create a new league?
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2014, 10:53:17 AM »
Most often leagues end up with a "share the wealth" type prize fund.  If people are paying in, they want something back no matter if they "earn" it or not.  Most of the time a dollar value is placed on points.  Like in one of our scratch leagues, 1 point is worth $1.50 to the team (50 cents per person), there are 30 points available each night per pair, so $45 a night is up for grabs per pair.  Then at the end of the year, you get paid out based on total points.  You also have to establish what other things you want to pay out for, like team hi 30, hi 10, individual, top scores, averages, most improved averages, etc, and how much you want to give for all of that. 
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