Hope I'm still on topic, but wanted to ask about 8-10 splits.

There is no good time for them, but unlike splits or difficult leaves, the 8-10's only seem to happen to me after a good set of frames. Like someone killing a good poker hand with the queen of spades.

Accidentally converted it one time (a few years ago), cause I was so angry that I threw the ball as hard as I could to the right of the 8 pin, bouncing it off the left wall and all the way over to the 10, taking it out.  Didn't even see it myself as I had already turned around. Generally, though, it's the kiss of death for whatever good string I have going, and unlike other leaves, I have no clue as to what went wrong, or a possible remedy.

Even if 8-10's are largely unavoidable and will just happen every now and then, still interested in whether ball speed or entry angle would play a bigger secondary role as a cause.

Thanks.

Hope I'm still on topic, but wanted to ask about 8-10 splits.

There is no good time for them, but unlike splits or difficult leaves, the 8-10's only seem to happen to me after a good set of frames. Like someone killing a good poker hand with the queen of spades.

Accidentally converted it one time (a few years ago), cause I was so angry that I threw the ball as hard as I could to the right of the 8 pin, bouncing it off the left wall and all the way over to the 10, taking it out.  Didn't even see it myself as I had already turned around. Generally, though, it's the kiss of death for whatever good string I have going, and unlike other leaves, I have no clue as to what went wrong, or a possible remedy.

Even if 8-10's are largely unavoidable and will just happen every now and then, still interested in whether ball speed or entry angle would play a bigger secondary role as a cause.

Thanks.

I personally watch the 6 pin in relation to the 10pin on 8-10's.  10 pins are much easier to adjust for, and likely the 8 pin will go away with the adjustment for the 10 pin.

Quote from: TheGom on March 03, 2013, 07:02:02 PM

Some really great answers, thanks! So much to learn!

As with most parts of bowling, find what works with YOUR game, and use it.  It may be with bits and pieces of all of these answers.

Agreed. I'll add one more.

This is something that has stuck with me since I was in youth bowling some 20 - 25 years ago. Still works to this day (at least for me).

Think of the drink: 7-up, 10 back.

Left a 7 pin? Move up 1/2" on your approach. Keep your shot the same.

Left a 10 pin? Move back 1/2" on your approach. Keep your shot the same.

Left a 9 pin? maybe move 1 board left. Keep your shot the same.

The problem with the 7s and 10s, especially ringing 10s, is entry angle. You can change that by moving forward or backward on the approach before changing everything else with a left or right move. In fact, I wouldn't start to think about a move until I started to leave stone 9s, a 4 pin, or a 4-9. If you are leaving those, especially the 4-9, then you may look at a 2-1 or a 3-2 left (3-2 is a bit extreme, but you may need to to catch up to the track).

But for the corner pins, 7 up/10 back has been an essential tool to my mental game.

BL.