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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: clemonsbill on June 28, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
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I have been hearing alot about cleaning your bowling balls. Is there a preferred cleaner to clean the surface of the ball. Some one told be about "BAKING" your ball. How often should this be done and what are the pros and cons about BAKING your ball?
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Large list overall
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Bowling_Ball_Technology
more specific
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/6/67/Brunswick_Ball_Life_Study.pdf
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Surface_Adjustment_Comparison_Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbQH4OwGppU
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There will be so many different responses to what cleaner to use. How often you should do it. Best thing to do is go to your local shop and see what is working around there. Get information from them.
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kidlost's links pretty well take care of it. No baking.
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Ive heard that standard 409 has alot of the same stuff in it as ball cleaner, rather than spending $15 you can spend 1.50 on 409 at DG.
but i clean mine after bowling before it goes in my bag.
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Suggest you don't do the baking thing not the best way of cleaning equipment.
Use a product that is approved by USBC and can be used while bowling league
as long as no rules by league. Knockoutballcleaner.com has specials on product with no shipping cost. It has been on the market for 10+yrs cleans and gives the ball
some Tac to the finish. Hope this idea helps?
Bowlpro Sales
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Been cleaning my balls with 409 for years and it works great. It is also a lot cheaper than the stuff ball companies and pro shops market. Basically any cleaner that contains a degreaser should do the trick. Though I have never used it, some bowlers swear by Simple Green.
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I know Simple Green leaves a residue that MUST be cleaned off. I would never suggest anyone use anything but a bowling ball-specific cleaner designed to clean bowling balls.
There are 2 general classifications of cleaners. One is those approved for use DURING bowling. They are generally water based and not as powerful as those approved for use BEFORE & AFTER bowling. My best DURING cleaners are Remedy, Knockout, Zapp-It, and Rejuvenator. To this group I have recently added LMB International (formerly Lane Masters) cleaner. From my personal test, this is actually better than pure acetone in cleaning balls.
For use BEFORE/AFTER are Clean and Dull and Hook-It. These are very powerful (in the class with LMB Int'l) cleaners and I would suggest using them every 3 - 4 outings unless you regularly use dull ball and on heavy oil. In that ase, you can use them after each outing.
In the long run, they are only slightly more expensive than cleaners NOT made for bowling balls, but are safer to use on a regular basis.
I would not bother using household alcohol as it is of little use in removing lane oil and serious dirt. not much more so than simple water.
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I know Simple Green leaves a residue that MUST be cleaned off. I would never suggest anyone use anything but a bowling ball-specific cleaner designed to clean bowling balls.
There are 2 general classifications of cleaners. One is those approved for use DURING bowling. They are generally water based and not as powerful as those approved for use BEFORE & AFTER bowling. My best DURING cleaners are Remedy, Knockout, Zapp-It, and Rejuvenator. To this group I have recently added LMB International (formerly Lane Masters) cleaner. From my personal test, this is actually better than pure acetone in cleaning balls.
For use BEFORE/AFTER are Clean and Dull and Hook-It. These are very powerful (in the class with LMB Int'l) cleaners and I would suggest using them every 3 - 4 outings unless you regularly use dull ball and on heavy oil. In that ase, you can use them after each outing.
In the long run, they are only slightly more expensive than cleaners NOT made for bowling balls, but are safer to use on a regular basis.
I would not bother using household alcohol as it is of little use in removing lane oil and serious dirt. not much more so than simple water.
+1 ....
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I have been using clean and dull for years now -- it does the job for me.
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I know Simple Green leaves a residue that MUST be cleaned off. I would never suggest anyone use anything but a bowling ball-specific cleaner designed to clean bowling balls.
There are 2 general classifications of cleaners. One is those approved for use DURING bowling. They are generally water based and not as powerful as those approved for use BEFORE & AFTER bowling. My best DURING cleaners are Remedy, Knockout, Zapp-It, and Rejuvenator. To this group I have recently added LMB International (formerly Lane Masters) cleaner. From my personal test, this is actually better than pure acetone in cleaning balls.
For use BEFORE/AFTER are Clean and Dull and Hook-It. These are very powerful (in the class with LMB Int'l) cleaners and I would suggest using them every 3 - 4 outings unless you regularly use dull ball and on heavy oil. In that ase, you can use them after each outing.
In the long run, they are only slightly more expensive than cleaners NOT made for bowling balls, but are safer to use on a regular basis.
I would not bother using household alcohol as it is of little use in removing lane oil and serious dirt. not much more so than simple water.
Just so much garbage about Simple Green. You want to be a sucker and pay 10 bucks for a four ounce bottle of basically 98% water, go ahead. Quit trying to talk people into being sheep like you.
OP, search the threads. Want an excellent cleaner that does the job with no "residue"? One third Simple Green concentrate, one third 98% Isoporpyl Alcohol, and one third plain old water. Twenty people in my league use this after they saw me using it and asked what it was.
De-oil your ball? Put it in the dishwasher. NO heated dry, NO sanitize feature. Run it on normal cycle. 90 minutes later, take out, let dry. NO oil, NO damage to ball, NO muss, NO fuss.
It really is this easy. You will be amazed at how complicated and hard people will make this. Try what I said and use. If you aren't satisfied, use some other cleaner and method.
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I simply use rubbing alcohol after each use. Works fine.
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I know Simple Green leaves a residue that MUST be cleaned off. I would never suggest anyone use anything but a bowling ball-specific cleaner designed to clean bowling balls.
Just so much garbage about Simple Green. .
Just because you can't see 2" past the end of your nose doesn't men everyone else in the world is blind. If you can't see the residue left by straight Simple Green on a bowling ball, spray some on a piece of glass, like a windshield. Then tell me you can't see the residue left behind.
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I've tried different cleaners over the years and the one I always go back to is Black Magic Rejuvinator. I actually have a quart of that stuff that I bought 3 years ago right before I stopped bowling, not sure if it's actually still good because it doesn't smell like orange anymore, but I've been using that stuff for years.
The Black Magic products are great, just don't buy the Black Magic XL. That's more of a polish than a cleaner, use the actual cleaner, which is Black Magic Rejuvinator. I use the XL polish as well as the cleaner, but I use it specifically to polish.
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I know Simple Green leaves a residue that MUST be cleaned off. I would never suggest anyone use anything but a bowling ball-specific cleaner designed to clean bowling balls.
Just so much garbage about Simple Green. .
Just because you can't see 2" past the end of your nose doesn't men everyone else in the world is blind. If you can't see the residue left by straight Simple Green on a bowling ball, spray some on a piece of glass, like a windshield. Then tell me you can't see the residue left behind.
Just because you can't see past the self-importance of your usual know-it-all, be-it-all about bowling (even though you've maybe thrown 1% of the balls that you choose to regurgitate some mag's review and claim it to be yours), you'd never notice I didn't say anything about straight Simple Green. Any cleaner BEFORE DILUTED WITH WATER will leave a residue. Some of us like to actually experiment on things instead of taking a magazine's word for something. You should try it sometime.
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I know Simple Green leaves a residue that MUST be cleaned off. I would never suggest anyone use anything but a bowling ball-specific cleaner designed to clean bowling balls.
Just so much garbage about Simple Green. .
Just because you can't see 2" past the end of your nose doesn't men everyone else in the world is blind. If you can't see the residue left by straight Simple Green on a bowling ball, spray some on a piece of glass, like a windshield. Then tell me you can't see the residue left behind.
Just because you can't see past the self-importance of your usual know-it-all, be-it-all about bowling (even though you've maybe thrown 1% of the balls that you choose to regurgitate some mag's review and claim it to be yours
As always, when you assume, you make an *ss of yourself.
), you'd never notice I didn't say anything about straight Simple Green.
Your reading skills also seem to lacking. I never said you did.
Any cleaner BEFORE DILUTED WITH WATER will leave a residue. Some of us like to actually experiment on things instead of taking a magazine's word for something. You should try it sometime.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
I offer something positive, no matter what the source. You have never done so. Your boundless myopia does not permit anything you haven't personally experienced and your every comment and reply professes that close mind. How sad.
We're done. Permanently.
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I use the hot water bath every 30 games or so and a mixture of 98% iso alcohol with about 1/3 simple green with a spray bottle after every session, balls are squeaky clean!
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I will jump in an give my two cents on Bowling Ball cleaning.
The first thing that all bowlers should get into the habit of doing is wiping your ball off each strike shot. USBC rules allow to spray an acceptable cleaner into a rag during play, and wipe in between shots. It is a simple pre shot routine ritual which becomes a habit when you see your scores increase.
Doing this will prevent the absorption of oil into the core of the bowling ball, thus maintaining performance longer without the need to bake or oil extract 20 to 30 games. Doing this will also give you an advantage to repeating shots because the surface of the bowling ball will be consistent, and reduce carrydown because your track is always fresh each shot. In essence, you'll hold your line longer.
My next advice is to use an acceptable cleaner....2 reasons....1. The cleaners are developed for reactive resins 2. They can be used during play. When it comes to bowling, there is a healthy amount of ego and competitiveness. The use of a home made cleaner can disqualify your scores...should the competition raise concern with the president or USBC.
While most cleaners are fairly good, I always recommend Remedy RX, which has been our top seller since it debuted 5 years ago. It breakdowns oil, gunk and leaves a super tacky finish.
You can purchase a sample pack of our products, or just an 8oz. Bottle of Remedy RX, our USBC approved during play cleaner.
www.ValentinoBowling.com
-Kevin
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I know Simple Green leaves a residue that MUST be cleaned off. I would never suggest anyone use anything but a bowling ball-specific cleaner designed to clean bowling balls.
Just so much garbage about Simple Green. .
Just because you can't see 2" past the end of your nose doesn't men everyone else in the world is blind. If you can't see the residue left by straight Simple Green on a bowling ball, spray some on a piece of glass, like a windshield. Then tell me you can't see the residue left behind.
Just because you can't see past the self-importance of your usual know-it-all, be-it-all about bowling (even though you've maybe thrown 1% of the balls that you choose to regurgitate some mag's review and claim it to be yours
As always, when you assume, you make an *ss of yourself.
), you'd never notice I didn't say anything about straight Simple Green.
Your reading skills also seem to lacking. I never said you did.
Any cleaner BEFORE DILUTED WITH WATER will leave a residue. Some of us like to actually experiment on things instead of taking a magazine's word for something. You should try it sometime.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
I offer something positive, no matter what the source. You have never done so. Your boundless myopia does not permit anything you haven't personally experienced and your every comment and reply professes that close mind. How sad.
We're done. Permanently.
Yeah, you've said that before yet you keep on coming back. You offer nothing, neither positive or negative. You just take up space repeating what others say. Your posts are as original as that guy who used to post ball reviews by copying and pasting the ball company's pr release. He disappeared, you should take the hint.
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I someone who got that Simple Green mix recipe from a ball company. The nice thing about it, from what I noticed, was that it did not alter the cover stock a lot like the other ball cleaners like Hook it or anything like that. It just seemed to help take the oil off.
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I will jump in an give my two cents on Bowling Ball cleaning.
The first thing that all bowlers should get into the habit of doing is wiping your ball off each strike shot. USBC rules allow to spray an acceptable cleaner into a rag during play, and wipe in between shots. It is a simple pre shot routine ritual which becomes a habit when you see your scores increase.
Doing this will prevent the absorption of oil into the core of the bowling ball, thus maintaining performance longer without the need to bake or oil extract 20 to 30 games. Doing this will also give you an advantage to repeating shots because the surface of the bowling ball will be consistent, and reduce carrydown because your track is always fresh each shot. In essence, you'll hold your line longer.
My next advice is to use an acceptable cleaner....2 reasons....1. The cleaners are developed for reactive resins 2. They can be used during play. When it comes to bowling, there is a healthy amount of ego and competitiveness. The use of a home made cleaner can disqualify your scores...should the competition raise concern with the president or USBC.
While most cleaners are fairly good, I always recommend Remedy RX, which has been our top seller since it debuted 5 years ago. It breakdowns oil, gunk and leaves a super tacky finish.
You can purchase a sample pack of our products, or just an 8oz. Bottle of Remedy RX, our USBC approved during play cleaner.
www.ValentinoBowling.com
-Kevin
I think with many of the super soakers out today that is especially important. They hook a lot and they absorb a lot faster. For those who do not have access to a baking option, or want to spend the money to bake that often, prevent defense is the best choice.
I used the water method with success for a while, but had a local shop bake one of my semi super soakers and the results were better. I then decided it was well worth making my own bowling ball oven. It was quick, easy, and cost less then $100. ($80ish) The dishwasher method works well, and so does a bucket of water by hand. I've used my actual oven and the keep warm feature at 130 with no issues.
If you follow the instruction for the surface prep prior to baking/oil extracting by water, I think it really gives the best results. (great if you have a ball spinner)
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/6/67/Brunswick_Ball_Life_Study.pdf
Above all else for bowling balls with surface is cleaning to prevent as much oil absorption as possible.
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I bowl with a Hammer First Blood. I first was using Brunswick remove all ball
cleaner, then switched to energizer ball cleaner by Power House. I use it after every time I bowl.
I came across Adrenaline ball steroid wipes by Power House. All I can say is WOW!!!!! It works great.
I wipe by ball with it and I was amazed that the wipe was almost black when I was done. I don't think there is any thing on the market better then Adrenaline ball steroid wipes..........
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RemedyRX is great stuff. I've been using it for a while and it definitely does the job. If I need a really deep clean, then I'll use Resurrection cleaner/resurfacer.