Hamster, go back to around 6-10-03 and there or around that time there was several posts on the CLT. Also, someone posted a place to "click on" that gave pictorial instructions on exactly how to lay out the CLT grip. I don't have time right now to look it up for you, but if you can't find it, message me and I will find it for you later today.......I tried it and it was probably the most comfortable grip I have ever had, but for some reason my ball "went dead." Some people really like this grip. I intend to experiment with it more later when I have time, because it is so comfortable for me. Basically, it puts more of your hand against the ball.