Author Topic: Changing my game...more like "dead eye" (Read 1844 times)

jonah300 · « **on:** February 17, 2005, 12:02:38 AM »

Yesterday i was reading an article in the bowlers journal that was talking about why every young guy who jumps into the pba are the ones who try to put the most humanly possible revs on the ball (dj archer,chris johnson,girard,palerma,etc)when the best player in the world,the guy that has dominate every pattern in the pba (heavy oil,medium,light,easy condition,and now in the toughest condition in the world "the us open" he is dominating it too.
So i was thinking and i practice yesterday... i am cranker who throws 498 rpm and always has got to play the big hokk...and now i am wondering...why??? men its not that hard to hit your mark consintenly when u dont have to worry so much about ur release and let the ball and the layouts make the job done...so i am thinking to have an a,b,c,and d game...the numer one its gonna be in the track area with minimun rotation,the b its gonna be more like the third arrow lofting the ball a little bit cuping my wrist a little bit but very much the same of the a game,my c game its gonna be the one i have actually ...maximun hook and rotation(the big hook something like 20 to 7)and my d game its gonna be foward roll for the first arrow juat rolling it
so if i make this changes...should i change the way i drill my balls?

jonah300

jonah300 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2005, 09:09:35 AM »

come on guys...opinions?

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guzmand19 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2005, 09:42:01 AM »

It depends on what physically matches up to your game, and which gives you the best chance to perform. The argument of cranker vs. tweener vs. stroker can go many different ways. Truth is each one presents it's own advantages and disadvantages.

One thing I think is a disadvantage about the rev monsters, is that they are pretty much at the mercy of the amount of oil and pattern on the lanes. In order to throw wicked revs, you have to have some oil to allow the ball to store energy and you also have to have some dry in order to shoot towards the pocket. If there is too much oil, the ball skids and too much dry the ball will suffer burnout.

If you can keep your big hook shot in your bag, and also develop a more tweener style, more power to you. I think the article in Bowlers Journal should have said the problem with the big crankers jumping on tour is, there are times that you cannot crank the ball. You have to take what the shot is giving you. However, if you can become great cranking the ball, and good enough stroking the ball, then you have just added versitility to your game. Thats what the best bowlers have that wannabe's don't. The ability to match up on the most amount of conditions.

Now Bones will present the counter argument, which is would you rather be dominant on one condition but suck on others, or be very good on all of them (jack of all trades, master of none)

I think of this like the Robert Smith vs. Chris Barnes argument. Smith pretty much owns pattern E, but Barnes will often show up on tv more since he can play anything.
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DON DRAPER · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2005, 10:41:02 AM »

keep in mind that "deadeye" was born with great hand to eye coordination and has practiced for many years. keep your wrist straight and use a more end over end roll.

CharlieBrown · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2005, 01:36:10 PM »

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The game you should trying to copy is someone like chris barnes, someone who can do it all.
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I'd love to throw like Barnes, but no matter how hard I try, I just physically can't.

Hell, I'd love to be able to have a release like PDW, effortlessly hooking the entire lane with power, but again, I am physically not able to.

So I guess, WRW, simple arm swing, simple release would probably be the way to go. I have to say though, he's very accurate and his speed control is awesome.

I'd love to throw like Tommy Jones also, smooth yet powerful.

Rick Steelsmith and Lonnie Waliczek also have simple yet very good machanics as well! For someone like me, 5'6 120lb small frame, Rick and Lonnie's games should be what I model on.

That Giant Norm Duke is pretty awesome though!

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pin-chaser · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2005, 01:48:20 PM »

For heaven sakes... dont copy anyone!! Your style might just be the next big deal! Simply modify your exsisting game to provide the maximum amount consistancy and repeatablity. That is the best you can be. And that is what it will take to get to the top.

Can you imagine Roth, Holman, PDW, WRW saying... I want to be like "someone else"? It just dont make sense that us bowlers want to be like someone else when instead of just analysing our repeatablility and making decisions based to those results.

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Not done · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2005, 01:59:40 PM »

eugene mccune can do it all.. that guy is nuts
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Fluxuateher · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2005, 02:08:28 PM »

For my two cents I would like to suggest that you make your number one game your most natural and comfortable one. This should be your choice whenever you can use it, like your favorite ball. Then, it is wise to learn how to play the lanes with different releases and lines to the pocket. But do not quit on your natural style, unless it is so bad that you have no choice, and I do not get that impression from your own description above. You will need to know different releases and angles and the like, and when to use them, to be a top bowler but you got to have a number one shot that is yours to count on when you need it. I have heard this since I first started to get around in the bowling world, even back in the 60's, guys who come out on tour usually find that they spent all their time learning how to hook the ball before going pro and then once they are out there they spend it learning to go straighter. The bottom line is that you are you and Walter is Walter. You have to be true to that first.

Hex017 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2005, 02:19:38 PM »

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For my two cents I would like to suggest that you make your number one game your most natural and comfortable one. This should be your choice whenever you can use it, like your favorite ball. Then, it is wise to learn how to play the lanes with different releases and lines to the pocket. But do not quit on your natural style, unless it is so bad that you have no choice, and I do not get that impression from your own description above. You will need to know different releases and angles and the like, and when to use them, to be a top bowler but you got to have a number one shot that is yours to count on when you need it. I have heard this since I first started to get around in the bowling world, even back in the 60's, guys who come out on tour usually find that they spent all their time learning how to hook the ball before going pro and then once they are out there they spend it learning to go straighter. The bottom line is that you are you and Walter is Walter. You have to be true to that first.

Bingo, I admit I love the way Norm bowls and I try to imitate his style in certain ways. I also like Amleto a lot. But when it comes right down to it I really can not bowl quite like them. It does not feel comfortable. If anyone people tell me I look like a right handed version of Parker Bohn, with a slower ball speed. When all things considered, just be who you are and do what is most comfortable. Just remove all major flaws that could ruin your game. Unless you "a" game is so bad that you just have got to change, make your A game as good as possible. Then making adjustments in style will come with practice. What was said before hit it right on, be who you are, but learn how to do it "the correct way"
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janderson · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2005, 02:25:02 PM »

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For heaven sakes... dont copy anyone!! Your style might just be the next big deal! Simply modify your exsisting game to provide the maximum amount consistancy and repeatablity. That is the best you can be.

That's about as right-on as you can get.
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Overhand · « **Reply #10 on:** February 18, 2005, 05:32:26 AM »

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so if i make this changes...should i change the way i drill my balls?

yep, your pap will change...

i applaud your approach

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