Looking to add a strong solid symmetric to my bag.  Both of the Spoiler and Nano have similar specs.  I'm leaning towards the Nano, since I have had success with the original.

Trying to get a general feel of people's opinions on both and/or recommendations.

I'm also open to other suggestions from other companies as well...

I can't weigh in on the Spoiler really, but I can add something small on the Nano. Bowled a sport shot tournament this weekend, flat and reversed. One guy on our pair had a look not many others in the house could replicate by throwing the Nano. He was able to swing the lane through the friction, bump the oil on the outside and still carry. Many balls would check way early in the friction or slide on the oil line. I think it's a pretty versatile piece to have in the bag for sport. On THS reviews, many noted it can get overly smooth but still get good length for whatever that comment is worth.

2 piece high RG when in doubt.  Can't speak to Spoiler though. 

Don't know about the Spoiler, but I agree with what has been said about the Nano. I've used it on two different sport shots as well as THS. Out of the box, it was too much for the house shot. Once I got some games on it, it is now my go to ball most nights in league. Once it gets too much, I can ball down to the Pearl (still looking for something to go to after the Pearl).

On sport, it was extremely good on the 40ft pattern I bowled on. Only used it in game 3 on the 45ft pattern, but it also looked good there. I've been keeping it at roughly 3000 grit now and cleaning it with Reacta Skuff every 6-9 games or so.

Conditions will vary since we change the shot every 6 weeks in our league and the occasional tournament.  I'm more or less looking to fill a hole in my bag just in case.  I did drill up a solid asym, but it just doesn't match up with my game very well and I've decided to move on.

I have an original hyroad in my bag that still sees a lot of lane time, so that's why I was originally leaning towards the nano.   However, after seeing some of the EBI stuff, I'm open to trying them out as well.  That's where the spoiler came into view.

The Spoiler is really good and would be my choice as a mid range solid if I didn't already have a Freak Show Solid, the Spoiler has been really impressive and used a lot in tournaments.

If you like the HyRoad and use it a lot, you can't go wrong with the Nano as a step up

People are in love with Hyroad Nano cause it's new. People liked the HyRoad Solid when it first came out too. Let's see the consensus by the Spring time.

From what I've seen so far, it has a lazy, all-midlane motion. The high speed/high rev guys don't have to worry about shooting it past the breakpoint, but for the tweeners, strokers and average low-rev mixed league bowlers this thing doesn't look that good on the THS that I've seen in a few different Vegas houses.

In all fairness, I don't think the spoiler or Hy-Road Nano look impressive on most house shots. Also, balls like that tend to blend out the extreme wet/dry.

Nano isn't the best option for house shots, mine is at home on the rack.  Obviously it's pretty good on flatter shots, but in turn, the stuff that looks good for me on house shots usually stays in the bag or at home.  The Hectic is really the only ball I have that goes back and forth well, and to a slightly lesser degree the No Rules Pearl too I suppose. 

Quote from: DP3 on January 08, 2018, 03:25:41 PM

People are in love with Hyroad Nano cause it's new. People liked the HyRoad Solid when it first came out too. Let's see the consensus by the Spring time.

From what I've seen so far, it has a lazy, all-midlane motion. The high speed/high rev guys don't have to worry about shooting it past the breakpoint, but for the tweeners, strokers and average low-rev mixed league bowlers this thing doesn't look that good on the THS that I've seen in a few different Vegas houses.

In all fairness, I don't think the spoiler or Hy-Road Nano look impressive on most house shots. Also, balls like that tend to blend out the extreme wet/dry.

People are in love with Hyroad Nano cause it's new. People liked the HyRoad Solid when it first came out too. Let's see the consensus by the Spring time.

From what I've seen so far, it has a lazy, all-midlane motion. The high speed/high rev guys don't have to worry about shooting it past the breakpoint, but for the tweeners, strokers and average low-rev mixed league bowlers this thing doesn't look that good on the THS that I've seen in a few different Vegas houses.

Perhaps that's the case with some, but as I posted, I've seen a good reaction on both house shots and sport shots with mine - at least once the box finish was gone. Maybe it's just our house shot here.

I never had the Hy-road Solid, and I've still yet to own an original Hy-road. I've only had the Pearl (Nano and Pearl are a great 1-2 combo so far for me). I buy a good deal of balls in a season. Some I love, some are ok, and some end up being less than ideal. In fact, I bought the Daredevil Danger at the same time (love the Trick and original) and I'm finding the Nano to be a better match so far - although the Danger worked well in game 3 last night.

I'm certainly not a cranker, although I do often throw with decent speed - but not always. Rev rate probably maxes out around 350 on a good day. I generally play the track and out. Low tilt, a little more up the back. People have seen me throw it (including my PSO since I bowl with him multiple nights), and now I see a ton of people with the ball.

I do also throw 14lbs. Should put that out there since the core specs are different.