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The Messiah

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Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« on: January 04, 2013, 12:03:44 PM »
I have an Avalanche Urethane and it is too much ball for this house.  My dad gave me a Blue Hammer (he dropped down to 14 lbs) and I was wondering how it compares to the Avalanche.  Would it be worth plugging and redrilling?

 

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 01:48:51 PM »
if your avalanche  is too much dont do it my blue is a good 5 boards more than my avalanche i have the two in a bag by themselves for when i sub in a wooden lane house.

The Messiah

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 02:15:46 PM »
Damn, that's what I was afraid of.  Good looking out.  Hopefully someone will put out a decent looking plastic ball with a core.  Not feeling that Taboo Spare.

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 02:23:51 PM »
I have had both drilled exactly the same, and I can tell you that I found the new Blue Hammer to be noticeably weaker than the AU. I personally feel it may be worth trying. It all depends on how much weaker you need it to be. Significantly weaker than both are the classic Faball Hammers, perhaps you can score one of the oldies.

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 02:38:25 PM »
If the lanes are that dry add more polish. People seem to forget that urethane hooks.

If you need plastic then go ahead and buy it.

The plastic bowling balls with the more aggressive core will only slightly increase the balls flare. The cover being plastic is the bigger factor in how it will react to the lanes.
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The Messiah

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 02:54:21 PM »
I have a ball spinner and keep my Avalanche polished.  I also have a plastic spare ball, but it doesn't carry at all when used as my strike ball.

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 03:04:27 PM »
The core in a plastic ball isn't going to magically make it carry more. Just in case you decide to spend that kind of money on a plastic ball.

In terms of polish, are you applying heavy pressure to burn the polish into the cover? Usually doing that for a couple of coats helps make a difference. If there is no oil to be found on the lanes then most will not matter if they are that dry.
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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 03:09:58 PM »
I use Sonics by Roto Grip for dryish lanes. Sonic-X's, Ultra-Sonics, and Supersonics. However since you are now talking about using plastic, I have to assume you are talking about bowling on toast!

In those cases, most of the balls that I have that carry the best on that condition, are MoRich pieces. I have an Nsane Revs, drilled pin under ring with MB kicked right that carries well. I have a Shock and Awe, pin and MB stacked under the bridge that carries well; and I have an Onslaught drilled simple leverage, but pin down.....and this ball really carries well.

My original Blue Hammer can't be used on toast. The ball still has a lot of giddy-up and hooks entirely too much, even though it's urethane!
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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 03:15:01 PM »
If you can find a XXXL by lane 1, which is plastic with the diamond core, it carries really well compared to every other plastic I have thrown.  I got lucky and found one on ebay in the right weight.

Also, if you can come across the old pink hammer from the 90's, the shell is extremely hard with a modern sym core.  It is way weaker than anything out today that I've seen or thrown that is urethane.  I have the AU myself.

I think lane 1 still sells a plastic with a core, now called the blood diamond.  But it's 3 digit pricey. 


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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 05:42:37 PM »
I guess my question would be, what are guys who are bowling well throwing where your AU is too much ball.  I would think that any urethane at 4000 with a touch of polish would handle the driest conditions that you ever see anymore with high viscosity oils, and the volumes being used generally.  I bowled on a shot that hadn't been oiled in a couple of days, and the surface was old.  Still could play my natural urethane at 3rd arrow

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 07:33:39 PM »
I guess my question would be, what are guys who are bowling well throwing where your AU is too much ball.  I would think that any urethane at 4000 with a touch of polish would handle the driest conditions that you ever see anymore with high viscosity oils, and the volumes being used generally.  I bowled on a shot that hadn't been oiled in a couple of days, and the surface was old.  Still could play my natural urethane at 3rd arrow

If my Avalanche Urethane is too much for the dry, I go to my Slingshot: more length, can play deeper, if necessary than urethane, with the same drilling. Slingshot has tiny bit more backend when the backends are a desert, enabling me to play deeper with better carry.

Getting a urethane to 4000 grit these days is still a major challenge for any compound, polish and with a spinner. Some are easier than others, none are easy.
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The Messiah

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 09:14:14 PM »
I stepped down from a Slingshot to the Avalanche.  Have had a lot more success with the AU.  Just want something a little more tame than the AU.

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 12:19:40 AM »
Significantly weaker than both are the classic Faball Hammers, perhaps you can score one of the oldies.
I have one of the new Blue Hammers and Burgundy, Red and Blue Pearl Fab Hammers.  The Burgundy is the strongest of all them.  It's even polished and it still needs med-heavy oil or it won't stay on the lane.  The Fabs also hit much harder for me.  Last year I did well with that Blue, this year it won't kick out the corners. 

Since getting these I don't even throw reactive stuff anymore (at least for house shots).  For dry if you can find a Blue Pearl, it's perfect.   
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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2013, 02:21:57 AM »
I bowled in a house a few years ago that had no oil after 15 feet on the weekends.

A simple headshot on Saturday morning.  I would throw to 15 feet at 10 and boom the ball would pop up in the air a couple of inches at 15 feet and land at 13 then slowly be in the gutter at 40 feet....

We would play 4 th and 5th arrow on the weekend every weekend on the left any reactive.  Urethane was not better.  Plastic never worked.  A guy came in one day and laid a 660 in practice playing on this same shot on the left!

Playing straight up 9!  I asked him wha?  He said Rubber! 

Rubber for the weekends made it playable(they never worked in league!)

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The Messiah

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Re: Comparing Avalanche Urethane and Blue Hammer.
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2013, 10:18:38 AM »
I ended up getting a Taboo Spare.  Ball hooks more and hits better than my T-Zone.