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Juggernaut

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CONFUSED-P.B.A. league shots not reacting.....
« on: June 04, 2008, 07:06:53 AM »
anything like I was expecting, or was told.  I've even been to the bowl.com site, watching the vids and listening to the pros talk about how they are playing the shots, but that doesn't seem to be working here.

  Last week, played on the cheetah.  Supposed to be a "high risk/high reward" type of shot, usually having  breakpoint out close to the gutter.  I tried to play it that way with little or no results.  The high average for the night was standing 18, throwing up 12 with a lot of speed, shooting a 630.

  Last night, we has the scorpion.  Supposed to be a shot played in around the tenth board without a lot of swing, holding the ball in the pocket with speed control.  I tried this with again little or no success.  The high average for the night was standing 12, whistling rockets up the 5 board, shooting a 659 while the only shot I could find was to move left with my feet on 38 playing the fourth arrow.  Didn't even try that until 1/2 the last game was over because NOBODY has ever said that was the way to play this shot.

  Now, two weeks in, shots not reacting like ANYONE ( that knows ) says they should, and I am averaging a whopping 160 something trying to play them like the professionals say they should be played, and watching a couple of guys throw whistling rockets down the lane the first two weeks and being the only ones to score anything.

  I am really beginning to wonder if the shots are being put out correctly or not, and not just because my scores are low, but because the ones having any success are NOT playing the shots the way the professionals shooting the videos say the shots should be played.  And, if the shots aren't correct, what was the purpose of a PBA experience league if its not really the PBA shots?
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Re: CONFUSED-P.B.A. league shots not reacting.....
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2008, 05:35:14 PM »
The shots aren't going to play correctly according to the pro videos, because the house tries, and rarely ever gets it right.

The fact of the matter is though, that the shot is going to be tougher than your standard house shot...so go with it
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Re: CONFUSED-P.B.A. league shots not reacting.....
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2008, 05:56:46 PM »
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions, many have been enlightening, to say the least!

  Yeah, I am going to re-think my approach to these shots and, instead of going in with a preconceived notion of what they SHOULD do, just keep my head up, my eyes open, and see what they really do, then play them accordingly.

  It has been frustrating to watch the tips, then not even find anything remotely the same.  I knew they would be tougher, and in spite of what some may think, I really am a decent bowler, not as good as I was when I bowled all the time, but still decent.  That is what was killing me I think, trying to blindly accept what others were saying should happen, and confused by what was actually happening.

  Well, heres to hoping I have better luck this week on the viper.......
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Re: CONFUSED-P.B.A. league shots not reacting.....
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2008, 05:57:08 PM »
This is very interesting, because I have bowled two pbax leagues now and have found similar results like the pro's have on tv. Like for instance, the shark pattern I was seeing people playing outside of 6 and washing out constantly and a few guys were using polished stuff, I take my passion with 800 wet sand and play 28 out to 9 and crush the pocket and then later on move into like 32 or 33 out to 10 or 11 and have the same result. But like others have said on here, the lane surface and ball choice will effect a lot of factors when it comes to bowling on the 5 pba patterns.
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Re: CONFUSED-P.B.A. league shots not reacting.....
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2008, 06:01:08 PM »
One thing that I found on the viper is use something mediumish, not snappy but not really rolly and yes, it will play somewhat like a house shout, but with out all the oil in the middle, just have to hit your mark consistantly though to score well. One other thing, what I did when I came in to bowl one what ever the pattern was that week, I would start off some where close to where I played them the week earlier and go from there and it worked pretty good for me, so ya have an open mind works wonders when bowling on the pba patterns and don't be afraid to try different equipment too.
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Re: CONFUSED-P.B.A. league shots not reacting.....
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2008, 06:02:19 PM »
Juggs

I don't think anyone is saying you're a bad bowler, in fact, I doubt anyone on here cares, as most of us are just house hacks with over inlfated averages anyways.

I, for one, am sympathizing with you because the USBC is pushing these PBAX leagues so hard, yet it seems that most of the houses putting the shots out are not doing them correctly anyways.

It just goes to show...bowling is lame.  They don't want these easy score shots, but when they try to put out tougher shots, but also want to keep them the same for everyone, they can't.  That is lame.

A lot of us at one time or another have preached for standardized tougher lane conditions, and when people buy into the PBAX league, no one can even get that right.....

I guess the only true way to get the PBA conditions right is to go bowl in the PBA, but with the huge prices they charge for their tournaments, who wants to do that?

The PBAX leagues will fail....the end.
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