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Jeffrevs

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Consistency
« on: February 04, 2005, 02:51:20 AM »
Last night I had one of those head-scratching nights....first and third game are under par...170s range....then I bust out with a 230 something in the second game!!??

Tell me...why does this happen?  Is consistency really just a matter of consentrating on where the he11 I'm throwing the ball,...or is it more complicated than that?  One would think that games 1 and 3 I was trying too hard or something, ....but...I'd push wide one....tug another....game 2 I was just able to string a bunch and was basically on-target the whole game...

Sooooooo frustrated !

ON EDIT: What do you do to ensure you hit your mark, or, when you're tugging or pushing the ball, what can you do to get back "online".   Try to leave lane conditions out of this thread, ...this is an accuracy question

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Re: Consistency
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2005, 10:56:25 AM »
The only 2 things I can think of off hand are 1)Timing? and 2)Were you physically tired?

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Re: Consistency
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2005, 11:06:14 AM »
Thanks guys....9 .....timing could ALWAYS be an issue and probably was!

Bones....first and third game were bad...second was great!  The shot was there. It was operator error...because....well....look at game 2
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2005, 11:07:39 AM »
Shocker...carry was bad for all last night, ...but my issues were directly a result of poor shots...pushed or tugged
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2005, 11:18:13 AM »
guys, thanks for the replies...but ....I really don't think it's the shot changing...I'm looking more for 'hitting my mark' issues..not the changing lanes...like i said, game 1 and 3 were poor, game 2 was good ....so as far as consistency goes...not in scores, but throwing quality shots....what do you do?

is it just a matter of looking at your mark or area and hitting it consistently ?  Im sure timing can be a part of it,...etc....but..what usually brings you to a more consistent shot?
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2005, 11:25:53 AM »
Justin...funny....I didn't drink last night

shocker...i do too....but throwing the ball in the right place has been driving me crazy....like I said....one jsut right, one wide, one tugged!! ugh!
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2005, 11:27:32 AM »
Usually when that happens (Low 1st and 3rd games, Big 2nd game) all that means is that you're playing one part of the lane to death and when you're starting out, that's now where you should be playing but you eventually open it up with other people to the point that it becomes highly scoreable in the next game.  After that burns up you're left with a bad last game because you never made an adjustment to the transition of the 2nd game.  It happens all the time.  I'm just now understanding that.
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2005, 11:30:10 AM »
DP3,
great tips, and points.  I was moving left accordingly all night...so I had the lane ok..it was throwing it where I should have...

here let's do it this way...

what do you guys do to ensure you hit your mark?!?!?  whatever line you're playing....let's leave lane conditions out of this...because me TUGGING teh ball or missing my mark 5 board right has nothing to do with transition...

so what do you do to ensure you hit your mark ?
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Jeffrevs

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Re: Consistency
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2005, 11:30:52 AM »
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Jeff if it is that then there are only three things that can be wrong.
Slide, where you sticking or stoping short?
 Arm swing? where you in line ect..
and last but least realease , holding ball long or out to early?

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probably a timing thing I'm sure......
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2005, 12:02:06 PM »
thanks Dave, no vids yet....

need to have my coach take a quick look at me soon.....

I could be, but it also seems that when I'm not paying attention to where I'm throwing it....I miss as well.........

very well could be i'm forcing it at the last second.....good all the way thru and then right at the bottom I tense because I'm forcing
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2005, 01:16:54 PM »
Where are you lining up your ball when you are in the set up position? Do you have a 4 step delivery, and if so are you making sure the ball is out of your setup before the first step hits the floor? I noticed that my timing was naturally off when I wasn't getting the ball in motion quick enough off the first step, and I would have to play catch up to the final step, causing me to tug through the shot. Since my coach worked with me on this little tweak of my set up, I've been 98% on with my timing and not tugging shots anymore.

You have to place some kind of timing mechanism in your head mentally that you can use to repeat shots over and over again, and you'll be able to tell when you are out of time. Keep us up to date with your progress in this area...

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Re: Consistency
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2005, 01:30:44 PM »
thanks matt!
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2005, 01:55:17 PM »
I am in favor of Bones post... typically that backends are strongest the first game and are more touchy to errand shots... while the third game the backends are sloppy and again become touchy to errand shots. (errand shots not only meaning targeting but also rev-rate and axis tilt)

Timing comes and goes and so does accuracy. The fact is that with todays THS, small variences in timing should mean very little to ultimately hitting the pocket.

I have nutralized the type of night use describe by using layouts that dont over emphasize or magnafy the backends and have arc'ing balls instead of balls that produce skid flip. This helps to alot since most of my errors are due to rev rate control since my return. (I cant seem to find a fit that I can get off my hand consistantly).

It just seems obivous to me that you are looking at the wrong item in attempting to blame your timing or physical game... sure that can always get better... but I am sure that there are alot of other people who's games are not where yours is and is still somehow scoring more than you. I would bet on it.
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Re: Consistency
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2005, 02:04:59 PM »
Jeff...

Would like to think accuracy is my strong suit...

Here are a couple things I always keep track of so to speak when I notice I am starting to miss my mark..(that means more than a board off line either side...)...

1) Pushaway...Am I pushing away correctly?? Am I pushing it at the start of the second step and not earlier( 5 step approach). I am pushing the ball straight out or am I adding a little upward push to it. If I am pushing with a little upward push to it, this will get me late and will cause me to miss my target.

2) First and second steps.  Am I talking a slow half step in my first step (of a 5 step approach).  Am I lifting my foot and placing as i should or am I shuffling it...are my first two steps slow and controlled??

3) Last thing I check is my setup.....making sure hips are pointed at target...etc.....usually a check and fix of one of the first two gets me back to being "on target"

Notice nothing about lane conditions...or correct ball....only assuming you are "missing target"..and not worrying about reactions...

Hope this may help out!@

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Re: Consistency
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2005, 02:08:03 PM »
Its really not a complicated thing. Consistency, IMO, is all about mental. There are SOME physical aspects, like being tired, or injured, but overall hitting your mark is just concentrating on it, and letting your body put it there. Then again, I am the least consistent person I know, so I cant really talk LOL
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