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traderfjp

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Control Dual Angle Layouts
« on: March 16, 2016, 10:31:25 PM »
I have a Vandal that is drilled to get down the lane 60 x 4 x 35 and make a strong move to the pocket.  I've been bowling really well with this ball and playing up the boards, but by the 2nd game the track area is burned and I have to go inside and I get an over/under reaction and lose carry.  I was thinking of drilling another Vandal but with a control layout.  What do you guys think of 45 x 4.5 x 70. Do you think I would get too much midlane read and not enough backend. The house I bowl in uses  a lot of oil but is very dry from 5 out to the gutter.  I have medium revs, good speed, a high track and average around 225.  I'm wondering if I would be better off with a 55 x 5 x 55. Thanks

 

Dave81644

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Re: Control Dual Angle Layouts
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2016, 06:21:28 AM »
well surface is king when it comes to these situations
a different layout would be further down the list as far as what would work better
A different surface is what you should be thinking about
if on a THS, i would be looking to store more energy and get down the lane further
which i would do with surface first, but typically a higher pin layout is what I would go to
i use the control layouts mostly for flatter patterns, more rolly and predictable downlane
just my $.02 worth

 

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Re: Control Dual Angle Layouts
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2016, 10:31:30 AM »
Agree, adjust surface is a big one. I think this is a pearl, if it is polished, by nature it will be flippy. Probably not the best ball to have for control. Given the surface, I would first want to knock off any polish to get the ball to read a bit sooner and to slow it down and burn off some energy. By doing so, that should mellow the backend motion significantly. However it may not fully smooth it out. Additional options are an X-hole on the PAP or on P1 area. Those areas will decrease diff and also help smooth out the ball. As far as layouts go, anything with a pin down layout will generally produce a smoother reaction due to the core being in a more stable position. Also, higher VAL angles will tend to smooth out the backend motion. Your 55*x5"x55* will be an idea, but keep in mind the 5" is a good representation of how much flare you may see. 5" is relatively high. If you want to control the backend motion, you might want to decrease your pin to PAP length to between 2.5" to 4". Just my experience, but surface is the easiest and cheapest solution to try. Good luck.
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traderfjp

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Re: Control Dual Angle Layouts
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2016, 01:20:07 PM »
I was told that the pin to pap is not important on an Asymmetrical ball like the Vandal that I will be drilling.  I have one Vandal drilled to go long and strong.  My next Vandal will be drilled with a control layout. What do you guys think about 55 x 4.5 x 70

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Re: Control Dual Angle Layouts
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2016, 01:31:17 PM »
For me, a control layout uses a 2" pin to pap for asymmetric cores.

You'll just see a reaction slightly different from what you have now with 55 x 4.5 x 70. Just a more rounded shape