Author Topic: Could software be created that can figure out how a ball should be drilled for someone? (Read 2711 times)

trash heap · « **on:** September 01, 2011, 04:34:03 AM »

Is it possible?

If you have all the specs on the bowler and the specs of the ball. Could an optimun layout be figured out by computer software. Basicall just tell the pro shop where to put the holes on the ball.

hhhbs1 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2011, 12:42:54 PM »

Ebonite has already come out with software for their bowling balls. http://powerhousebowling.com/blueprint.

Quadrajet · « **Reply #2 on:** September 02, 2011, 08:14:50 AM »

That software is amazing, too bad it only works with Ebonite, Brunswick, Track and Hammer equipment. But still, beggars can't be choosers I guess.

Xx 12 X 300 xX · « **Reply #3 on:** September 02, 2011, 08:49:36 AM »

Ebonite, Columbia, Track and Hammer.....Not Brunswick.

spmcgivern · « **Reply #4 on:** September 02, 2011, 08:50:36 AM »

Eventually the other major companies will have the same technology. I am sure there is potential to even simulate a typical shot breakdown and be able to develop a strategy for a tournament before you step in the center.

And the Blueprint program is amazing. I am not a real big Ebonite fan, but if you threw Ebonite products and were a big tournament bowler, then buying this for an individual could be extremely beneficial.

If I was a pro shop owner, I would try to get this program and really push its use. I wonder if one would charge extra to use the program? So many bowlers go in knowing they want a particular ball (newest and greatest). But this program could show them the new equipment with all the hook in the world would not be needed.

It could be said that this program could increase the sales of the cheaper equipment and take away from the overall sales of the newer high end equipment. I may want the new Taboo Pearl, but may find out a cheaper ball like a Track 503C is all I need. I saved money got the ball that really does suit my needs.

Has the pro shop lost a little in process?

Will costs of bowling balls change once most of the industries balls are on a program like this?

I am not a pro-bowler, but I do play one on BallReviews.com

mrfrostee · « **Reply #5 on:** September 02, 2011, 10:32:50 AM »

There is a pro shop here in Norfolk that has the program.

The charge for this service is $20.00 per ball. But, for each ball that you either purchase, new from the Bowlers Edge Pro Shop, or have plugged and redrilled based on our Logixx system and Blueprint, we will take 50% off of the Logixx service. If you purchase any 2 high performance bowling balls during your visit we will use this Logixx system and Blueprint at no cost to you.

milorafferty · « **Reply #6 on:** September 02, 2011, 10:38:47 AM »

I doubt it will be that much of an issue. Most THS bowlers just want the latest hook monster and don't listen to the Pro Shop staff anyway.

Besides, maybe 1 bowler out of 20 can repeat a shot well enough for this software to be effective. LOL

spmcgivern wrote on 9/2/2011 8:50 AM:Eventually the other major companies will have the same technology. I am sure there is potential to even simulate a typical shot breakdown and be able to develop a strategy for a tournament before you step in the center.

And the Blueprint program is amazing. I am not a real big Ebonite fan, but if you threw Ebonite products and were a big tournament bowler, then buying this for an individual could be extremely beneficial.

If I was a pro shop owner, I would try to get this program and really push its use. I wonder if one would charge extra to use the program? So many bowlers go in knowing they want a particular ball (newest and greatest). But this program could show them the new equipment with all the hook in the world would not be needed.

It could be said that this program could increase the sales of the cheaper equipment and take away from the overall sales of the newer high end equipment. I may want the new Taboo Pearl, but may find out a cheaper ball like a Track 503C is all I need. I saved money got the ball that really does suit my needs.

Has the pro shop lost a little in process?

Will costs of bowling balls change once most of the industries balls are on a program like this?

I am not a pro-bowler, but I do play one on BallReviews.com

spmcgivern · « **Reply #7 on:** September 02, 2011, 10:52:51 AM »

I agree many bowlers cannot hit a shot consistently, but the program takes this into account by using a standard deviation for the individual components of the bowler. Based on these numbers and the way a ball is drilled, it can determine an anticipated percentage of pocket hits one can expect from a particular ball drilled a particular way on a particular shot.

Maybe it is a little too much to think sales will be different. But if it takes me purchasing 3 balls for every one ball I really like and I am making guesses along with my ball driller, how many balls will I buy if I can get it right the first time? If the number changes to 2 balls for every ball I really like, then the pro shop has lost a purchase.

Question to others is, how many balls a year would buy if you could narrow down the exact drill pattern and ball based on what you want the ball to do? How many times will you get bowling balls redrilled if they are drilled better the first time? Lastly, if the program told you a Cyclone is the best ball for your conditions but you want a $250K, would you ignore the program and buy the $250K or go with a Cyclone? Or do you mess with the drilling of the $250K to make it work on the conditions you bowl on? Better yet, does the pro shop ignore what might be the better ball and just mess with the drilling to make it work on the conditions the bowler bowls on?

milorafferty wrote on 9/2/2011 10:38 AM:
I doubt it will be that much of an issue. Most THS bowlers just want the latest hook monster and don't listen to the Pro Shop staff anyway.

Besides, maybe 1 bowler out of 20 can repeat a shot well enough for this software to be effective. LOL

I am not a pro-bowler, but I do play one on BallReviews.com

Edited by spmcgivern on 9/2/2011 at 10:53 AM

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 02, 2011, 03:01:11 PM »

The program is a lot of fun for playing with. Still with customers it will say drill ball X in this manner for best results. Customer X will then say, I don't like bowling balls that are drilled pin down, or pin up, or I don't like weight holes or I want super soaker ball X to go long and snap. All of the things that will make the computer or anyone else go, "F*&K IT" thats what you want this ball drilled like, here you go. Customers think they know best, no matter what.

"1 of 1."

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