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Ric Clint

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Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
« on: August 19, 2004, 08:03:38 PM »
There's a place linked below that sells Ball Plug, but I don't have have no idea on what to buy? It can either be Fast Drying plug, or plug that takes a few hours to dry, it doesn't matter.

I've been drilling my own stuff for a little while now and having great success too. And also drilling for some friends. But when it comes to plugging a ball... I can't do that so I take it to my local pro shop and have the guy plug it and pay him, then I come home and cut the plug down with my Router and sand it smooth... but now I want to start doing this myself. That way I can do EVERYTHING at home myself.


http://www.bowlingindex.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?page=BI/CTGY/BPS


I know that I will have to have a Color Kit, and that's in the link for like $57.95. And I think there's another.

But which plug, what plug, and how much plug do I buy? There's several different kinds of plug and I don't even know what goes into the plugging compound to make it actually BECOME a "plug mixture"? I know there's Hardener, etc...

Please take a look and tell me what all to buy... or what all you'd buy if you were doing this, as I have no clue about this stuff... but once I'm told how to go about this kind of thing, I can run with it.

And I've got to have some pumps and cups, etc... I just don't know what all to get and how much to get... but I want to get this thing underway and start plugging my own stuff.

Please tell me the basics to get me on my way.


Thanks!







Edited on 8/20/2004 4:13 AM

 

Ric Clint

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Re: Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2004, 05:00:55 AM »
Oh, dear this is gonna sound stupid... but what does 3 to 1 ratio mean. I know it's something simple, or my mind is just drawing a blank.

And if I order one of these kits, for example, the Ebonite Everclear Plug kit... does everything that I would need like resin and hardener come with that? Does pumps and cups come with it too?

How how do you mix it up? A little of this, a little of that, a little color here and there, or what?


Can somebody explain the steps, step by step?


Thanks!






Edited on 8/20/2004 5:00 AM

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Re: Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2004, 08:41:33 AM »
Depends on how much you plan on doing.

This kit

Tech-Line - Pro Plug Kit HD (2 Gallons)

Is what we use.

The pumps will pre-measure the 3:1 ratio for mixing. (3 parts resin to 1 part hardner).

The slower drying (about 8 hours) plug gives better results in the long run. The plug is not a brittle.

Some of the kits come with Popsicle sticks for mixing. You’ll need some small cups to pump the plug into.

You can buy the dams or use modeling clay and build your own using the clay over and over.

We used a tempa powder paint for coloring.

Off course the size of the hole will dictate how many plugs you can do. The pumps pre-measured quantity will generally fill a normal thumb hole (15/16 drilled 3.5 inches deep) but an 1 3/8 inch slug hole will require 2 measured pump strokes. Finger insert holes (31/32) drilled deep enough to handle reversible inserts will generally require 2 pumps to fill both holes.

If you need partial mixes use kitchen measuring spoons to get the 3:1 ratio, don’t just guess the correct mixture is crucial for good results.

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Re: Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 09:42:30 AM »
Ric -I use techline. Get some tongue depressors they help stir better and you can buy a bunch for next to nothing.  I would get some non hardening plastilene clay for dams.  It's cheaper and you can make the dams anysize you want.  Just roll it out and put it around the hole and push it down.  make a good seal and you are good to go.  I wouls also get one of those trays to pour the excess plug into to make small cubes to fill up the holes so the next time you won't have to mix as much plug.  Be sure to bevel your holes with a bevel knife to establish a good edge or the plug will crack out or you won't be able to feather a good edge when you sand it down.  The color kit doesn't have black so you need to get a bottle of that.
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Re: Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 01:01:26 PM »
Ric Clint -- To get in the "plugging business" for yourself as cheaply as possible, first, you don't need the color kit.  Without color, the plug is clear and otherwise just the same.  Most of the time you end up drilling out most of the plug anyway.  Forget the plug dam kits and use modeling clay as already suggested.  Make sure the ball surface you are placing the clay dam on is clean or it will not stick.  You can find popsicle sticks for mixing in the crafts dept. at Walmart or other discount stores.  You do not HAVE to have the pumps, though they do make things easier.  Without them, just make sure you use the right ratio of compound to hardener for the brand you purchase.  Many are 3:1.  Use three volumes (any quantity volume) of compound to one of hardener.  Can be 3 ounces to one ounce, 1 ounce to 1/3 ounce, 3 tablespoons to 1 tablespoon, etc.  A set of metal spoon measures (about $1 at Walmart) makes it convenient for mixing small quantities.  Mix the two components for at least the time specified in the instructions, a little longer doesn't hurt anything.  Mix gently so you don't mix in a lot of air bubbles.  You must have a sharp edge on the holes you are plugging, no bevel.  The easiest way to get this is to drill out the hole with a larger drill bit for about 1/4" depth, but you can do it with a file.  For additional info, go to the Jayhawk Bowling website and find their information on plugging.  --  JohnP

Ric Clint

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Re: Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2004, 05:01:59 AM »
So for example on the "Ebonite Ever Clear Ball Plug"...

So 3:1 means basically... that for the average plug mixture that would fill up a hole, that I would need to use 3 pumps of the resin compound and 1 pump of the hardener? Is that right?

But since these pumps are calibrated... I would just need to pump like 1 time from the Resin compund and 1 time from the Hardener... because the actual pumps automatically determine/measure how much I need without me having to measure it up?

I'm leaning toward the Ebonite brand of plug... and I would like to get a color kit, because since I may be completely plugging balls and redrilling with different drill patterns, I really want it match up really good.



So is the following items all that I need to order?:


1.) Ebonite - Powerhouse Clear Plug Kit
http://www.bowlingindex.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?page=BI/PROD/BPS/PL-E650PHK


2.) Color Kit (PS-760)
http://www.bowlingindex.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?page=BI/PROD/BPS/PS-760

(This color kit actually contains mixing cups and stir sticks too)


3.) Kwik-Dam (PS-725)
http://www.bowlingindex.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?page=BI/PROD/BPS/PS-725

(Or I can just use some Clay instead)


4.) Tech-Line PLUG SAVER Tray
http://www.bowlzone.com/product_shop2.htm

(It's at the bottom of the page)


5.) Masterâ„¢ Mixing Cups
http://www.bowlerschoice.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Bowlerschoice&Product_Code=770&Category_Code=Pro+Shop+Equipment

(Which I won't actually need these since some come with the color kit listed above... correct?)




So would the top 4 things listed, really be all I woould need for this project? Once I order these top 4 things... will I be completely set for plugging balls, or did I leave something out?

And do all the PUMPS that I would need already come with the Ebonite Plugging Kit or do I need to order some of the 3:1 pumps also? If so, here's a link to some:

http://www.bowlingindex.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?page=BI/PROD/BPS/PS-765



Thanks!





Edited on 8/21/2004 5:00 AM

pnj1967

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Re: Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
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Re: Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2004, 08:42:27 AM »
Beware of the quick drying plug material (one hour or so).  I have a friend who tried it in his Pro Shop, and nearly every plug that he made using the quick drying plug epoxy failed.

Ric Clint

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Re: Buying Ball PLUG... please help me
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2004, 06:22:22 PM »
quote:
Beware of the quick drying plug material (one hour or so).  I have a friend who tried it in his Pro Shop, and nearly every plug that he made using the quick drying plug epoxy failed.


Woah, where have you been 10???