win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: Cracked Balls  (Read 14085 times)

dmonroe814

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • No Rewards or Punishments, Only Consequenses
Cracked Balls
« on: February 13, 2013, 06:27:39 AM »
I have never had balls crack like they do now. Chipping around the fingers and thumb, ok.  In the last year, I have had a 900 Global (3 yrs old) crack while on the rack in my basement, a Storm Modern Marvel (1yr old), a Storm tropical storm (2yr old) and a C300 Scout (6monhs old) crack on the floor of my closet.  No extreme temperature changes.  Is anyone else having issues with balls cracking?  Can I do something else to keep them from cracking?
14lb 15.5 mph at pins 325 Revs. Silver Coach, Ball Driller. In Bag:  Storm Pro-Motion, Hyroad X, Matchup, Code Red.

 

storm22

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 438
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2013, 06:35:30 AM »
There's not much you can do.  As long as you're not keeping them in crazy places, like the trunk during a deep freeze or the summer in a heat wave, it's just one of those things.  I have a bunch of NIB in the basement and every month or two I check them hoping there still ok.  Sometimes balls have a propensity to crack, such as Storm's Paradigm.  Mine cracked and I've heard this problem quite a bit with that particular ball.  Sorry for your losses.  Sucks to put that much money into equipment and have it split. 

BallReviews-Removed0385

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 0
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 09:00:47 AM »
Strange as this may sound, they are subject to cracking when they don't get used.  Every one that I've ever had crack was always at room temperature on a shelf.

Urethane based balls never quit curing.  When used the lane conditioners help keep the cover more pliable and less chance of cracking.  Every so often throw it a few games.

« Last Edit: February 13, 2013, 10:20:40 AM by notclay »

dmonroe814

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • No Rewards or Punishments, Only Consequenses
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 09:05:03 AM »

Strange as this may sound, they are subject to cracking when they don't get used.  Every one that I've ever had crack was always at room temperature on a shelf.

Urethane balls never quit curing.  When used the lane conditioners help keep the cover more pliable and less chance of cracking.  Every so often throw it a few games.


  Thanks for the Info.
14lb 15.5 mph at pins 325 Revs. Silver Coach, Ball Driller. In Bag:  Storm Pro-Motion, Hyroad X, Matchup, Code Red.

Rightycomplex

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1250
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 09:55:05 AM »
Drilling will have a lot to do with cracking. You must have  1 3/16" from the edge of the hole to the pin and the MB(i believe with some companies) in order to be covered by warranty. Some customers come in and have specific layouts that compromise the integrity of the ball and void the warranty. I make sure to remind them of what the layout will do to the warranty. Also chipping the pin deep in the hole may compromise the integrity as well. Which is why companies ask to drill out the pin or mb(if mb is drilled in) if a gripping or weight hole is within that area.

Thin shelled balls, gluing of grips and slug, and shell hardness will make cracking more likely. The harder the ball the more likely the ball is to chip and crack, which is why plastics and weaker balls chip and crack. It is also key to glue the grips and slug to the cover and not the filler. With thinner shells, its a little harder to do.

One of the big reasons i throw Storm/Roto is I like the shell thickness and the "marked" MB instead of drilled like per say Ebonite, C300, and some Brunswick Asyms. That doesnt mean that they roll any better than any other company but it's definitely a plus in my book. I've seen some C300 pieces crack because of the drilled thumb being to close to the MB. My Total NV cracked from the MB all the way round to the fingers. It just raises your chances.

Laying balls on the floor during down time can increase you chances if you have a concrete pad under your carpet or hardwood. The concrete is quite a bit colder than the house temp, which can leave you scratching your head.

Just somethings to consider.   
James C. Jones
Orbdrillers Pro Shop Holiday Bowl
Chester, Va.

Hammer Regional/Amateur Staff Member

www.facebook.com/orbdrillers
Orbdrillers.com
Hammerbowling.com

dmonroe814

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • No Rewards or Punishments, Only Consequenses
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 10:09:17 AM »
Drilling will have a lot to do with cracking. You must have  1 3/16" from the edge of the hole to the pin and the MB(i believe with some companies) in order to be covered by warranty. Some customers come in and have specific layouts that compromise the integrity of the ball and void the warranty. I make sure to remind them of what the layout will do to the warranty. Also chipping the pin deep in the hole may compromise the integrity as well. Which is why companies ask to drill out the pin or mb(if mb is drilled in) if a gripping or weight hole is within that area.

Thin shelled balls, gluing of grips and slug, and shell hardness will make cracking more likely. The harder the ball the more likely the ball is to chip and crack, which is why plastics and weaker balls chip and crack. It is also key to glue the grips and slug to the cover and not the filler. With thinner shells, its a little harder to do.

One of the big reasons i throw Storm/Roto is I like the shell thickness and the "marked" MB instead of drilled like per say Ebonite, C300, and some Brunswick Asyms. That doesnt mean that they roll any better than any other company but it's definitely a plus in my book. I've seen some C300 pieces crack because of the drilled thumb being to close to the MB. My Total NV cracked from the MB all the way round to the fingers. It just raises your chances.

Laying balls on the floor during down time can increase you chances if you have a concrete pad under your carpet or hardwood. The concrete is quite a bit colder than the house temp, which can leave you scratching your head.

Just somethings to consider.   
Location of drilling doesn't seem to be an issue with these cracks.  All seemed to radiate from a hole, and most from the switch Grip.
14lb 15.5 mph at pins 325 Revs. Silver Coach, Ball Driller. In Bag:  Storm Pro-Motion, Hyroad X, Matchup, Code Red.

BallReviews-Removed0385

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 0
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 10:25:21 AM »

Other reasons would include cold temperatures, filler material crumbling, and I've seen lots of small cracks around switch grips.  Could be that the huge mass being taken out might have an effect. 
Every ball may have it's own reason.  They are more complex than ever before with several different densities.


BrunsNick

  • Brunswick Rep
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7306
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 11:09:29 AM »
If it was from a Switch Grip, then I suggest slightly beveling the edge of the hole before gluing in the outer sleeve. Another thing I found, is I've had balls crack while in the garage on a rack. However, when I put them in ball boxes on a rack, they were fine. May not be an end-all-be-all cure, but it might help.
Nick Smith
Digital Media Manager - Brunswick Bowling
http://www.brunswickbowling.com
http://www.youtube.com/c/brunsnick

trash heap

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 11:13:35 AM »
Thin shelled balls, gluing of grips and slug, and shell hardness will make cracking more likely. The harder the ball the more likely the ball is to chip and crack, which is why plastics and weaker balls chip and crack. It is also key to glue the grips and slug to the cover and not the filler. With thinner shells, its a little harder to do.

My son's Cyclone cracked 4 days after it had been drilled. He had finger inserts. Bowled with it Wednesday (day he got it). Bowled with it on Saturday. Sunday he pulled it out of the bag to show it to someone and the crack was 3/4 around the ball. Ball was indoors whole time and in a bowling ball ball.

 Would this be a possible solution. Drill Oversized holes. Fill them with Ball Plugging, then drill the appropriate size holes for grips and slugs.  The ball does not go out the same day but would something like this protect it from cracking.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2013, 11:16:26 AM by trash heap »
Talkin' Trash!

Metal_rules

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1205
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 11:33:03 AM »
I just got a Disturbed about a month ago - it has a  small crack around the middle finger - away from the pin -- I also had a 916 AT  that cracked from the pin up about 2 inches. That is what warranty is for.
There's two kinds of music METAL and bullshit!

Rightycomplex

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1250
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2013, 12:14:23 PM »
Thin shelled balls, gluing of grips and slug, and shell hardness will make cracking more likely. The harder the ball the more likely the ball is to chip and crack, which is why plastics and weaker balls chip and crack. It is also key to glue the grips and slug to the cover and not the filler. With thinner shells, its a little harder to do.

My son's Cyclone cracked 4 days after it had been drilled. He had finger inserts. Bowled with it Wednesday (day he got it). Bowled with it on Saturday. Sunday he pulled it out of the bag to show it to someone and the crack was 3/4 around the ball. Ball was indoors whole time and in a bowling ball ball.

 Would this be a possible solution. Drill Oversized holes. Fill them with Ball Plugging, then drill the appropriate size holes for grips and slugs.  The ball does not go out the same day but would something like this protect it from cracking.

In drilling the fingers, what are your son's finger pitches. Another warranty factor is that you must have 7/8" between the fingers and atleast 1/4" bridge. And as I've mentioned above, clipping the pin so that the filler of the pin indicator is compromised can lead to cracking.

Nick brings up a great point, which is why i keep boxes around. They seem to do better in the box for some reason.
James C. Jones
Orbdrillers Pro Shop Holiday Bowl
Chester, Va.

Hammer Regional/Amateur Staff Member

www.facebook.com/orbdrillers
Orbdrillers.com
Hammerbowling.com

trash heap

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2648
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2013, 12:42:37 PM »
I am not sure I buy into how they are stored theory. I have had plenty of balls over the past 20 years. They have been everywhere in my house and in my car. Across all various degrees of temperature. Every ball had finger grips.  Never a crack.

Some balls haven't been used in years. I have a Flipside Wild that probably hasn't been used in 4 years (stored in a damp basement). Still looks good and no cracks.
Talkin' Trash!

swinginwehner

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 04:06:04 PM »
Extreme heat or cold can make balls crack.
If storing balls inside , store them in the bag and box that it came in.
The plastic bag is key , it keeps the acessive dry air out and if its does get condinsation in there that won't hurt anything.
I once wrapped a old ball in news papper , it took two weeks to crack
,it was just an experament the news papper sucked all the oil out of the ball.

jbruno6

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1303
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 05:30:17 PM »
I've had 3 crack the entire circumference of the ball while sitting on rack in basement.   An AMF Code, Storm Special Agent, and a Roto Grip Cell.     3 great balls!    Why couldn't my dynamo explode?   

glssmn2001

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 237
Re: Cracked Balls
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 06:08:26 PM »
I have had balls crack sitting on the floor, sitting on the floor in the box, sitting on a shelf, sitting in the bowling bag. Hell, I have even had a plastic ball crack. Everyone is gonna have their guesses as to why they crack, but to be honest I really do not think anyone really knows why.

 My only question is why is it always the balls that I like that crack and the ones I dislike last forever.

 BTW, this is week 4 of a ball sitting outside next to the house in the middle of winter......no cracks... go figure