I have a DV8 Grudge that I keep in the bag only for tournaments, it's set up 45 x 3 3/8" x 40, P3 x-hole. When I need it for a flood, I REALLY need it. I also keep a Brunswick Melee Jab for tournaments, 45 x 4.5" x 60, no x-hole. Pin down, smooth rolling symmetrical core ball, gotta have it in my tournament bag. Neither ball sees league play.