Author Topic: creating the huge revs (Read 3682 times)

chipmunkbowler · « **on:** September 02, 2009, 12:20:09 AM »

what would you say is the key to creating revs like Robert Smith or Michael Fagan?

Gazoo · « **Reply #1 on:** September 02, 2009, 08:24:28 AM »

Natural ability to do so.
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #2 on:** September 02, 2009, 09:47:58 AM »

Good timing. Physical disposition (not everyone is able to do such a release). Lots of training to control the revs and the ball reaction.
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Nbgiant25 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 02, 2009, 10:02:48 AM »

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Good timing. Physical disposition (not everyone is able to do such a release). Lots of training to control the revs and the ball reaction.
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I'll echo this sentiment... Some people simply can't maintain the hand position required for such action on the ball.

That being said, many people try to do it, realize that they can't, and then they give up. It probably took my wrist a full 6 months of repetition while bowling 5+ games per day, 6 days a week to be able to create a high number of revs. Its something that doesn't come quickly, if you want to do it right and be able to control the ball.

The actual key is the ability to keep your wrist cupped in a firm position, and the ability to uncoil at just the right moment. For the people who do this properly, it doesn't feel like they are actually putting that much on the ball, it just happens.
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #4 on:** September 02, 2009, 10:14:49 AM »

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That being said, many people try to do it, realize that they can't, and then they give up.

Or - even worse - they never realize that they fail or try to play a style that simply is not theirs. I fell for the revs trap, too, when I started bowling, but had to admit that it is simply not what I can "play". I am a stroker, period. and I fare well with it

That said, I have a club mate who has a tremendous release with tons of revs, effortlessly. I watched him play because I wanted to find out how the hell he generates all these revs, and one point was - among others - that he was/is able to get the thumb out of the ball very early and snap his hand in an immediate sideways movement, imparting a lot of quick and powerful lift.
He has short fingers, and the thumb is points to the outside, which promotes such a quick movement. I could not do it, because my hand is completely different (slender fingers). Other physical aspects certainly play another role. Never underestimate your individual body's mechanics - and if you force things too much, it can even get painful!
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chipmunkbowler · « **Reply #5 on:** September 02, 2009, 12:04:25 PM »

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Cupping and Uncupping works great, if you like working overly hard for something that is achievable without anywhere near the timing or effort required.

Slewinski wrote a great article describing how to impart good strong rotation on the ball without the timing variable of the cup/uncup. Basically, having your fingers between the ball and your body, and the thumb being outside your fingers is the easiest way to create a high-rotation delivery. The revolutions are created when the fingers are brought from that far "inside" the ball to up the back as late as you can before release. The speed of the fingers naturally "resetting" from inside to behind the ball create the rotation with no effort required at the point of release.

Learning this release yourself is harder than getting a good coach to teach you it, so best go find one

Good luck!
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it takes a little more than that because im talking about robert smith he reaches 600s michael fagan 550s and just doing that gets you in high 300s low 400s if you have the talent

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 02, 2009, 12:37:05 PM »

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Talent? What talent is required to generate revolutions? The answer is absolutely none. "Revs" and "talent" do not relate to each other.

Robert Smith and Michael Fagan are not talented because they have high rev rates, they are talented because they worked harder than the average bowler to get to the level they are at. They have high rev rates because that is the release they developed. One does not relate to the other.

As someone else asked in another one of your mindless threads - Are you a little slow or do just post to give yourself something to do?

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Cupping and Uncupping works great, if you like working overly hard for something that is achievable without anywhere near the timing or effort required.

Slewinski wrote a great article describing how to impart good strong rotation on the ball without the timing variable of the cup/uncup. Basically, having your fingers between the ball and your body, and the thumb being outside your fingers is the easiest way to create a high-rotation delivery. The revolutions are created when the fingers are brought from that far "inside" the ball to up the back as late as you can before release. The speed of the fingers naturally "resetting" from inside to behind the ball create the rotation with no effort required at the point of release.

Learning this release yourself is harder than getting a good coach to teach you it, so best go find one

Good luck!
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it takes a little more than that because im talking about robert smith he reaches 600s michael fagan 550s and just doing that gets you in high 300s low 400s if you have the talent

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Flapper, why do you find it necessary to come and bash someone because of an opinion. Revs and Talent do have some correlation to each other. Now back to the post when looking at high rev players you have to keep in mind the time they have spent developing a release and their natural flexability.
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NoseofRI · « **Reply #7 on:** September 02, 2009, 01:28:06 PM »

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Talent? What talent is required to generate revolutions? The answer is absolutely none. "Revs" and "talent" do not relate to each other.

As someone else asked in another one of your mindless threads - Are you a little slow or do just post to give yourself something to do?

Um isn't no personal attacks in the rules? Or did you not read that one?

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 02, 2009, 01:28:51 PM »

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I think I will simply inform the people in charge of this website that you trolls are violating forum rules by hijacking every single thread I post in and dragging it off topic.

Why don't you read the forum rules, and maybe follow one or two for once in your life?
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mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 02, 2009, 01:39:58 PM »

That's right because your opinion is the only one that matters. sarcasm off
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NoseofRI · « **Reply #10 on:** September 02, 2009, 01:48:14 PM »

Sorry I saw you completely ignored me so I'm going to try this again.

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As someone else asked in another one of your mindless threads - Are you a little slow or do just post to give yourself something to do?

^^^ This is a personal attack. Which I believe IS in the rules. And before you try the whole "its fact so it can't be an attack" You're questioning it therefore it can't be fact.

mainzer · « **Reply #11 on:** September 02, 2009, 02:08:21 PM »

4Pin, Why is that GetOffMe10Pin and I have to follow the rules but you can attack chipmunk for asking questions, and call Harry a Homo?

Can you answer me that? Or am I still on your iggy list cause you don't like what I say, and I don't follow the trend of your imaginary world.
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Monster Pike · « **Reply #12 on:** September 02, 2009, 02:13:15 PM »

I like the flap... It's a classic move designed by "Flapper" to make the joe bowler laugh every time he's sees it. Thereby freeing up joe bowlers arm swing & creating more revs...

mmcfarland300 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 02, 2009, 02:18:03 PM »

I have always felt the flapper videos should be accompanied by some kind of yodeling or a banjo type music.
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Monster Pike · « **Reply #14 on:** September 02, 2009, 02:23:37 PM »

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I have always felt the flapper videos should be accompanied by some kind of yodeling or a banjo type music.
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LoL, that'd be priceless...

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